dear reaponsibles for Wiki TN
Hello
My name is Saif Ben Ammar i'm a social media content creator Director of Hor cujet one of the most watched shows on youtube and the only verified show on Facebook
i'm writing you this letter because i had an issue writing an article about me and my activities on wikipedia knowing that i'm highly researched on Google if you type ( Hor Cujet ) or (Saif Ben Ammar )
it was accepted in the begining then , it was deleted Link : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_ben_ammar
i wanted to know the way to do it because it's really a nessesity besides we dont have wikipedia pages in tunisia for content creators I hope that you will help me about this
i will write some références in order to help create this after your approval of course and Thank You
Références :
https://www.tekiano.com/2019/09/09/lelection-presidentielle-tunisienne-2019-... https://www.huffpostmaghreb.com/entry/hor-cujet_mg_4979476 https://directinfo.webmanagercenter.com/2019/03/13/seif-ben-amaar-remercie-l... https://www.youtube.com/horcujet https://www.facebook.com/horcujethttps://www.youtube.com/horcujet
Dear Saif,
I refer you to the discussion that occurred on this topic through the group's FB page.
Regards, Mourad
Le 9 nov. 2019 à 19:29, mrseif Ben Ammar mrseif94@hotmail.com a écrit :
dear reaponsibles for Wiki TN
Hello
My name is Saif Ben Ammar i'm a social media content creator Director of Hor cujet one of the most watched shows on youtube and the only verified show on Facebook
i'm writing you this letter because i had an issue writing an article about me and my activities on wikipedia knowing that i'm highly researched on Google if you type ( Hor Cujet ) or (Saif Ben Ammar )
it was accepted in the begining then , it was deleted Link : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_ben_ammar https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_ben_ammar
i wanted to know the way to do it because it's really a nessesity besides we dont have wikipedia pages in tunisia for content creators I hope that you will help me about this
i will write some références in order to help create this after your approval of course and Thank You
Références :
https://www.tekiano.com/2019/09/09/lelection-presidentielle-tunisienne-2019-... https://www.tekiano.com/2019/09/09/lelection-presidentielle-tunisienne-2019-vue-par-le-youtubeur-tunisien-hor-cujet-video/ https://www.huffpostmaghreb.com/entry/hor-cujet_mg_4979476 https://www.huffpostmaghreb.com/entry/hor-cujet_mg_4979476 https://directinfo.webmanagercenter.com/2019/03/13/seif-ben-amaar-remercie-l... https://directinfo.webmanagercenter.com/2019/03/13/seif-ben-amaar-remercie-les-tunisiens-pour-leur-soutien/ https://www.youtube.com/horcujet https://www.youtube.com/horcujet https://www.facebook.com/horcujet https://www.youtube.com/horcujet _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-tn mailing list Wikimedia-tn@lists.wikimedia.org mailto:Wikimedia-tn@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-tn https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-tn
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Dear Sir, I thank you for your answer. This is just the kind of problems I have faced for years and that obliged me to step down from Wikipedia. Effectively, it is absolutely hard to prove a Tunisian artist as admissible or to prove an admissible artist as Tunisian mainly in French Wikipedia. As for the situation of Mr. Saif Ben Ammar, he has been a finalist of Sadeem Arab Challenge. However, using this as a criterion for the admissibility of the work can be disproven by a third-class non-Arab Wikipedia user. Sadeem Arab Challenge itself can be offended for this purpose. What I see here is that we have to define detailed criteria for Wikipedia admissibility and not to give way to subjective interpretations. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki ________________________________ De : Wikimedia-tn wikimedia-tn-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org de la part de Mourad Ben Abdallah mourad.babdallah@gmail.com Envoyé : lundi 2 décembre 2019 20:24:06 À : Wikimedia TN User Group Mailing List wikimedia-tn@lists.wikimedia.org Objet : Re: [Wikimedia-tn] Creating a WIKI page for a Tunisian Artist
Dear Saif,
I refer you to the discussion that occurred on this topic through the group's FB page.
Regards, Mourad
Le 9 nov. 2019 à 19:29, mrseif Ben Ammar <mrseif94@hotmail.commailto:mrseif94@hotmail.com> a écrit :
dear reaponsibles for Wiki TN
Hello
My name is Saif Ben Ammar i'm a social media content creator Director of Hor cujet one of the most watched shows on youtube and the only verified show on Facebook
i'm writing you this letter because i had an issue writing an article about me and my activities on wikipedia knowing that i'm highly researched on Google if you type ( Hor Cujet ) or (Saif Ben Ammar )
it was accepted in the begining then , it was deleted Link : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_ben_ammar
i wanted to know the way to do it because it's really a nessesity besides we dont have wikipedia pages in tunisia for content creators I hope that you will help me about this
i will write some références in order to help create this after your approval of course and Thank You
Références :
https://www.tekiano.com/2019/09/09/lelection-presidentielle-tunisienne-2019-... https://www.huffpostmaghreb.com/entry/hor-cujet_mg_4979476 https://directinfo.webmanagercenter.com/2019/03/13/seif-ben-amaar-remercie-l... https://www.youtube.com/horcujet https://www.facebook.com/horcujethttps://www.youtube.com/horcujet
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Dear Houcemeddine,
I have a hard time understanding why it is "absolutely hard" to prove a Tunisian artist as admissible in the French Wikipedia when currently 674 articles exist in French about Tunisian artists (450 articles in Arabic and 63 in English).
The challenge is not what individuals do, but the fact main Tunisian media do not write enough articles about them. Unfortunately, this question has to be addressed with the media or the SNJT, not with Wikimedia projects.
As for this particular case, the fact to be a finalist of the Sadeem Arab Challenge is not a criterion for admissibility. This is not disproven by any user, it is disproven by WP criteria that are pretty straight forward. We need one book or two articles in Tunisian media separated by two years and centered on this person (talking about the person and not just mentioning him/her while discussing another topic). Currently, this has not been proven that they exist for Mr. Ben Ammar.
Regards, Mourad
Le 2 déc. 2019 à 21:48, Houcemeddine A. Turki turkiabdelwaheb@hotmail.fr a écrit :
Dear Sir, I thank you for your answer. This is just the kind of problems I have faced for years and that obliged me to step down from Wikipedia. Effectively, it is absolutely hard to prove a Tunisian artist as admissible or to prove an admissible artist as Tunisian mainly in French Wikipedia. As for the situation of Mr. Saif Ben Ammar, he has been a finalist of Sadeem Arab Challenge. However, using this as a criterion for the admissibility of the work can be disproven by a third-class non-Arab Wikipedia user. Sadeem Arab Challenge itself can be offended for this purpose. What I see here is that we have to define detailed criteria for Wikipedia admissibility and not to give way to subjective interpretations. Yours Sincerely, Houcemeddine Turki ________________________________ De : Wikimedia-tn wikimedia-tn-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org de la part de Mourad Ben Abdallah mourad.babdallah@gmail.com Envoyé : lundi 2 décembre 2019 20:24:06 À : Wikimedia TN User Group Mailing List wikimedia-tn@lists.wikimedia.org Objet : Re: [Wikimedia-tn] Creating a WIKI page for a Tunisian Artist
Dear Saif,
I refer you to the discussion that occurred on this topic through the group's FB page.
Regards, Mourad
Le 9 nov. 2019 à 19:29, mrseif Ben Ammar <mrseif94@hotmail.commailto:mrseif94@hotmail.com> a écrit :
dear reaponsibles for Wiki TN
Hello
My name is Saif Ben Ammar i'm a social media content creator Director of Hor cujet one of the most watched shows on youtube and the only verified show on Facebook
i'm writing you this letter because i had an issue writing an article about me and my activities on wikipedia knowing that i'm highly researched on Google if you type ( Hor Cujet ) or (Saif Ben Ammar )
it was accepted in the begining then , it was deleted Link : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saif_ben_ammar
i wanted to know the way to do it because it's really a nessesity besides we dont have wikipedia pages in tunisia for content creators I hope that you will help me about this
i will write some références in order to help create this after your approval of course and Thank You
Références :
https://www.tekiano.com/2019/09/09/lelection-presidentielle-tunisienne-2019-... https://www.huffpostmaghreb.com/entry/hor-cujet_mg_4979476 https://directinfo.webmanagercenter.com/2019/03/13/seif-ben-amaar-remercie-l... https://www.youtube.com/horcujet https://www.facebook.com/horcujethttps://www.youtube.com/horcujet
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