Hi,
when can we expect the missing videos from the auditorium to be uploaded to Commons? There already some videos of the conference viewable at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_2015_presentation_vide... , but especially Sunday's presentations still seem to be missing.
Cheers, Philip
On 5 August 2015 at 14:45, Kerry Raymond kerry.raymond@gmail.com wrote:
Now that’s a good idea!
The possible problem is that the criteria for awarding scholarships does not necessarily mean any particular competency in video recording (I’m guessing journalism students might be a bit more capable in this area) but it’s worth a try.
And why limit it to scholarship holders? Why not extend it to anyone attending on donor money including WMF staff? With that total number of people, then the obligation on any individual isn’t large (doesn’t overly interfere with their ability to attend the sessions they want) and the risk of failure of an individual to do it well enough doesn’t expose the exercise as a whole to too much risk.
Kerry
*From:* wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto: wikimania-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Lih *Sent:* Thursday, 6 August 2015 3:33 AM *To:* Wikimania general list (open subscription) < wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> *Subject:* Re: [Wikimania-l] Video recording of Wikimania sessions
I think a good use of our scholarship money would be to ask for service obligations, such as being part of the video recording crew.
I've been part of professional journalism organizations and this is done annually with great results -- we call it the "student newsroom." Applicants who are accepted get a full scholarship to attend, have a well-defined set of service obligations around reporting on the conference, and the benefit is that they get to see other sessions and rub shoulders with people they would have otherwise never get to meet.
-Andrew
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On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 11:59 AM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect if we put out a call in advance we would be able to get a lot of the equipment we need. I would have brought a tripod for this wikimania if I'd known in advance it was needed (not so likely to be possible next year as I may need to bring a tent and sleeping bag).
On 3 August 2015 at 19:40, Ellie Young eyoung@wikimedia.org wrote:
There will be videos of the featured speakers, some of the hackathon, and a documentary available soon. People involved in this will presumably be posting when these are available and up on Commons, etc.
I think in the future we might want to consider having cameras/tripods and especially good audio recording in each of the session rooms. (I think that might be something WMF could provide equipment and make sure A-V service has good audio especially.) We could then ask for volunteers on site to handle logistics/recordings. This wouldn’t involve a lot of editing or post-production work/expense… as long as people know that it would be pretty “basic”, but making sure we have good audio especially.
I wil ask the upcoming Wikimania organizing team what they think of this idea and perhaps they will come up with a plan and/or put out a call for partcipation to make this happen next year?
Ellie
WMF Conference Coordinator
On Aug 3, 2015, at 11:30 AM, Joseph Fox josephfoxwiki@gmail.com wrote:
I believe at least one press outlet was recording some talks, presumably to serve as b-roll. Perhaps what you saw was one of those?
Joe
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015 at 19:21 とある白い猫 to.aru.shiroi.neko@gmail.com wrote:
Andrew++
I find it odd that we are willing to have a huge budget for Wikimania and none for recording videos of talks for non-attendees to view. I think we owe it to them. It can be crowdfunded if need be.
An interesting idea perhaps is to group video if we have a reliable way to crowd source this.
I did notice a video cam recording the talk after mine. I am unsure if mine was recorded as well. Does anyone know who was operating the tripod camera? I seen it in other talks too.
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On 18 July 2015 at 23:17, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
Andrew++.
A.
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
I'm trying to guerrilla video record as many Wikimania sessions that I can attend, so I cannot respond at length.
But I do want to say: the cost/benefit analysis needs to consider the quality of the viewers and not just the quantity.
When a Wikipedian in Residence can show their institution the video of their Wikimania presentation as evidence of impact and engagement, it can lead to renewal of their positions and more initiatives.
When the video of a Wikimania panel on COI and PR editing can convince more multi-billion dollar PR firm to understand our guidelines and terms of use, that's a major outcome.
When someone talks about Wiki Loves Earth, #100wikidays or other grassroots projects, video provides a unique window into the emotions and motivations you cannot capture in a mailing list or blog post.
When in 10 years, we want to know the passions and personalities that led us to where the movement is, where will we look?
If we're expecting Wikimania videos to rack up the same views as LOLcats, it ain't going to happen. It has always been a very small core community does a massive amount of the innovation and work that keeps the projects going, and the ability to talk to each other in deep, complex and accessible ways is vital.
For a movement dedicated to capturing the sum of all human knowledge, it's surprising how blasé we are in letting our own community history fall by the wayside.
-Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism, American University Email: andrew@andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video
On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Nkansah Rexford nkansahrexford@gmail.com wrote:
Recording video* is easy; you can do it on most mobile phones these days.
And on that note, the wiki indaba conference was recorded solely on a mobile phone[1]. Although sound quality wasn't the best, with considerable thought on getting an appropriate accessory to handle sound, phones are also an alternative worth looking into.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTdU_5c77__7y3igaHAauOyAvo2crj2cp
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