Pinging Zach in WMF Communications to ask for comment about branding in general, and Wikipedia vs Wikimedia in particular.
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On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:57 AM, C. Scott Ananian cananian@wikimedia.org wrote:
I apologize if this is a bit of a hand grenade in the discussion, but:
If we are really concerned with third parties understanding what our conference is about, we should really use "Wikipedia" in the title and avoid the use of "Wikimedia". The general public really has no clue what Wikimedia means. If you just use "Wiki-" they think "Wikileaks". That's just the place we are at right now.
I have no idea how to concisely include all the "Wikimedia projects" and still mention "Wikipedia" in the title... which suggests perhaps that Ed's version ("Wikimania: the global wikipedia summit") or whatever subtitle Lodewijk used isn't too far off.
I suspect that it's just plain hard to come up with a short name which captures the entire intended scope of the conference (the "Wikipedia and Related Projects Conference"?), and so a short name that tries instead of capture the "fun" aspect (which is what -mania connotes to most of us) is a reasonable alternative. --scott
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Andrew Lih andrew@andrewlih.com wrote:
Hi all,
- The Wikimania Committee with Ellie Young would be the most likely
entity that could facilitate a process if we wanted to consider a name change. Full disclosure: I’m on the committee, but it may be getting a revamp in the near future.
- We tend to not like voting on anything like this, especially since we
don’t have very good findings of fact, or even a good sampling of anecdotes around the name.
-Andrew
-Andrew Lih Associate professor of journalism, American University Email: andrew@andrewlih.com WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W ikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Béria Lima berialima@gmail.com wrote:
*Now the 1 million dollar (...) question: to whom do we address the
task of eventually solving this?*
Well, might not be the easiest answer, but: Why not run a vote?
Have some period of "submissions of name", and an after vote open to all community on it (with bots, sitenotice and etc to advertise it.) and let the community decide. _____ *Béria L. de Rodríguez*
*Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.*
2016-11-07 12:08 GMT-02:00 Luca Martinelli martinelliluca@gmail.com:
OK, now this is more of an argument I can consider as compelling.
Now the 1 million dollar/euro/pound/yen/yuan/rupee/peso/shekel/$you_name_it question (which unsurprisingly Asaf already posed): to whom do we address the task of eventually solving this?
L.
Il 07 nov 2016 15:05, "Edward Saperia" edsaperia@gmail.com ha scritto:
Agree with Andrew - when I was organising it in 2014 I usually called it "The Global Wikipedia Summit" because Wikimania doesn't sound important.
- On first glance, the name isn’t very professional sounding. So it
may be hard to convince one’s boss or academic head to fund travel or time off to attend the premier conference for the Wikimedia community.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 8:28 AM, Gordon Joly gordon.joly@pobox.com
wrote:
Is it proper and correct to use the term "mania"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mania
Would we say "WikiMad" or WikiCrazy"?
Gordo
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