Re: [Wikimania-l] Breakdown of attribution for scholarships

I think what we're looking for is probably not online yet.

I've personally gone following these values and trying to get a tally for them. It was a dead end. I thought maybe my search-fu skills weren't good so didn't bother.

That 75% nicely phrased sentence probably has been in every year's criteria outline, BUT, I doubt it's ever been met.

The global south that gets more percentage on paper, but smaller percentage in reality, kinda awesome!

Perhaps, there's not been enough applicants to exhaust such a percentage. On the other hand, many Africans probably did or do apply, but duh, it's hard to know the applied:accepted ratio in union with the holy grail 75%.

I tried getting deeper into the actual figures some 3 or 4 years or so ago, and I ended up stopping.

And has there ever been any official explanation relating to such values? As in, if the 75% is not met, is there any document explaining what happened?

I've gone down this witch-hunt road before and I came back with nothing but sore eyes and weakened muscles. It's a long stretch.

It's Wikimania, isn't it? 😕😕 On 11 Mar 2016 4:07 pm, "Florence Devouard" fdevouard@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for pointing out that the reporting about Wikimania tends to be... full of holes :)

Digging, I found this: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:TPS/Wikimania_scholars/2015_Outcomes

Which is... well... incomplete.

And the category https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimania_scholarships is obviously... not complete either.

So, rephrasing....

I would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the scholarships in 2016.

And I would find interesting to see the 2015 report completed as well :)

Flo

Le 11/03/16 16:31, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :

...

Unless there's something I'm missing or these percentages haven't been same for previous years, but has the 75% ever been fulfilled before?

On Friday, March 11, 2016, Florence Devouard <fdevouard@gmail.com mailto:fdevouard@gmail.com> wrote:

I would like to see a breakdown of scholarships attributed per
countries.


My memory was that WMF was aiming to support 75% from Global South
and 25% from Global North. However, I can not find track of that
information on the scholarship page :

* https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/2016 which
refers, in terms of goals to
*

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Scholarships/SWOT_2005-2014_and_go...

If the goal is 75% of Global South... given that Africa got 2%, I
would find interesting to know which countries were attributed the
73% left.

Florence


PS: transparency... right ?





Le 11/03/16 16:01, reachout2isaac@gmail.com a écrit :

    Nkansah Rexford, I have no idea of why you directed such a
    non-sequitur
    comment to me. Regrettably, your tone is condescending with lack

of empathy. Everyone have the right to voice their concerns and you're not in the best position to criticize them. That being said, Nobody begged for Wikimania scholarship but we have the right as a community to raise concern on certain issues and that is none of your business. You're neither a chair of the scholarship committee nor the Wikimedia Foundation Events Manager. You are not in the best position to respond to this. It is always a good idea to learn to be reserved.

    I don't like to say you're crude and rude but kindly have the
    decency to
    be polite when addressing your fellow Wikipedians.

    Warmest regards,

    Olatunde Isaac.

    Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

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    The scholarships are what they are: scholarships, not ticket to
    heaven.

    Many factors go into approving an application for scholarships.
    Plus,
    hundreds if not thousands apply for the scholarships every year.

NOT everyone can be accepted. Neither will everyone be rejected.

    Some will need to go this year. Others will have to wait on the

turn (assuming they check all the application requirement boxes) Unfortunately, this year, Nigeria couldn't win a scholarship slot. That's unfortunate but NOT demoralising, I think. It's not as if anyone promised you a scholarship...

    To say it's 'demoralising' is a strong word to use here. How is it
    demoralising? No one has guaranteed anyone of a scholarship
    should they
    edit Wikipedia or not.

    If because you didn't get the scholarship, and you think that's
    demoralising and wish to stop contributing to Wikipedia, that's
    in your
    hands. However, such an approach will defeat the whole purpose
    behind
    contributing to Wikipedia.

    We don't contribute to Wikipedia because we want scholarship.
    Rather,
    it's primarily for the love of contributing to the freeness and
    openness
    of knowledge globally.

    Nigeria isn't the only country in the world, nor the country
    without a
    representation this year at wikimania. That doesn't mean a country
    representing is better than Nigeria. It simply means, there're

fewer slots than the scholarship grant can handle.

    Forget about demoralisation! Help improve knowledge freely and
    openly. I
    find that to be of more concern than anything at the moment.

    I'll recommend we work on meeting the application criteria from

now until next year and hope to be called for scholarship. Even if then we're still not called, keep making the world a better place with free knowledge.

    Hi Ginevra,

    No scholarship was awarded to any member of the Wikimedia User

Group Nigeria. This is worrisome as Nigeria will not be represented at Wikimania. I don't think this is a good idea and I wonder why American and European countries have more representative than Africa. This is demoralizing and the community is not happy about it.

    Warmest regards,

    Olatunde Isaac,
    Manager, Wikipedia Education Program Nigeria
    Coordinator, The Wikipedia Library, Yoruba.
    Secretary, Wikimedia User Group Nigeria.
    Phone: +2348166620737
    Email: reachout2isaac@gmail.com <mailto:reachout2isaac@gmail.com>
    User page: Wikicology
    Facebook: Olatunde Olalekan Isaac.
    Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile.

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    Hi people,
    it's finally time to send your applications for the Community
    Village at
    Wikimania 2016:

    https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_village

    And you can also start planning your meetups:

    https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetups

    Finally, remember that the calls for discussions, posters and
    trainings
    closes on March 20, so you have 10 days left!

    Have a nice weekend,


    Ginevra
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