Hello again
I have now submitted a panel session for the Developer's Q/A:
http://wikimania2011.wikimedia.org/wiki/Submissions/Ask_the_Developers
If you like, you can sign on that page in support of the session.
-- daniel
On 20.01.2011 13:38, Daniel Kinzler wrote:
> Hello all
>
> As you probably know, this year's Wikimania will again feature hacking days
> (which I help to organize), just before Wikimania proper. However, the current
> setup is missing an opportunity for developers and chapter people to get
> together and talk about what the community wants and needs.
>
> So, I would like to propose to have a Q/A session where the community can ask
> questions to developers. I'd like to do this during Wikimania proper, so
> everyone has a chance to attend.
>
> The question is: are people interested? Or is it just my silly idea?
>
> I feel that people often have "small" questions that developers could answer
> quickly, or there are long standing issues and it's unclear why they don't get
> fixed. But often people don't know who to ask, or when or how. At the Wikimedia
> Conference in Berlin last year, some people used the opportunity to grab a
> techie, which was good, but it was while standing up, over coffee. I'd like to
> give this a bit more time, space and especially attention.
>
> So, would you be interested in such a session? Or do you know people who would be?
>
> Please let me know.
>
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> PS: Danese suggested a "fishbowl" type session for this. I think that's a good
> idea. Look it up on Wikipedia if you don't know what it is - I didn't :)
>
I completely and adamantly disagree with Harel.
Although some bbids are better then others, there are good suggestions already
on the 2012 bid list (the Istanbul bid for example - considering the early
stage) and other groups are considering bidding.
I believe that wikimania should remain an annual event, and although it is
complicated in time investing it is doable annually.
We should consider a mechanism which will provide each winning time with the
experience and knowledge of previous years to make things easier and to enable
annual improvement, but there are many chapters and groups who want to host
wikimania, and I am sure, that as the number of chapters annually increase, and
the number of volunteers annually grow – there will be more and more competitors
wishing to host wikimania.
Deror
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From: Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
To: Coordination list for Wikimania. <wikimania-planning-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Cc: Wikimania jury list <wikimania-jury(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wed, January 19, 2011 1:53:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Wikimania-jury] [Wikimania-planning-l] What to do about 2012, and
the future
2011/1/19 Harel Cain <harel.cain(a)gmail.com>
Wikimania-l is a public mailing list with hundreds of members whose relation to
wikimania organizing and bidding can be quite remote. I don't mind moving it
there, but my feeling is that most Wikimania "experts" and stakeholders are on
one of the two lists I wrote to in my first mail.
>
>
>Harel
>
>
>
>
>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:
>
>I think that this is not the right list to bring up this discussion. Perhaps you
>could re-send your email to wikimania-l ? For now, although I have strong
>opinions, I will keep them to myself to avoid confusion :)
>
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Lodewijk
>>
>>
>>2011/1/19 Harel Cain <harel.cain(a)gmail.com>
>>
>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I'm not a member of this list (so include me in your replies, should you reply),
>>>and my comments below express my personal opinion only, which is not necessarily
>>>representative of the opinion of WM Israel or of the WM Haifa local team.
>>>
>>>I'm also copying the wikimania-planning-l list in case they're interested.
>>>
>>>As someone who attended Wikimania 2007, 2010 and is now spending countless hours
>>>together with other team members on preparing WM 2011, I wanted to raise a
>>>somewhat controversial idea, namely that in future years, Wikimania will be held
>>>once every two years (biannually) and not annually.
>>>
>>>
>>>The reason I'm saying this is not only the huge effort that has to be invested
>>>by the local team year after year, but what is potentially a lack of strong bids
>>>to host Wikimania 2012, as witnessed by this year's jury. Even if strong bids
>>>emerge for 2012 eventually, I'm sure that in years to come the problem will
>>>repeat and again we might face a situation where there are no strong bids at
>>>all.
>>>
>>>
>>>To me, the lack of strong bids is an indicator that holding a big, expensive and
>>>complex international conference in a changing location year after year is not
>>>very realistic in the long term - and Wikimania is just becoming ever more big,
>>>expensive and complex (for example, WM2011 will see at least three side events
>>>preceding/co-locating with it).
>>>
>>>Few international organizations do that. In fact, many international conferences
>>>such as the International Congress of Mathematicians are held every 4 years! I
>>>don't think it will be a bad sign for the Wikimedia movement / foundation to
>>>decide to hold Wikimania every two years, just a realistic understanding on its
>>>part that the tradition of annual Wikimanias is not very practical. I hope that
>>>eventually, someone will have the decision power and the courage to take this
>>>decision - if not for 2012 (I'm not advocating to skip WM2012 specifically,
>>>that's not my agenda), then in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>>Your thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yours,
>>>
>>>Harel Cain
>>>Wikimania 2011 local team (but speaking personally)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Yes, that is all very true. But whether or not we should have a Wikimania every
year, is something that has impact on all those visitors, so they should have at
least a say in that :) Also, they are your potential bidders for the future
years, and all the experts are there /too/. You have the best of both worlds
there imho.
Lodewijk
Today I got an email from PayPal notifying me that the payment I made
for Wikimania had been returned. It said something about it having to
be manually confirmed, and that that had not happened, so I got the
money in return. This is obviously not the way it is supposed to be,
so I wonder what I should do about it?
--
Jon Harald Søby
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Jon_Harald_S%C3%B8by
Sorry if this has been answered already,
but could someone give a rough estimate of when we can expect the videos
from the sessions in Gdansk?
Sincerely,
-Liam
wittylama.com/blog
Peace, love & metadata
Hi all,
for those who aren't familiar with the locations in Haifa and Israel I
have created a small map with all locations concerning Wikimania 2011:
http://maps.google.de/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=de&msa=0&msid=21696416008530133631…
* train stations
* transportation lines
* venue
* hotels
* dorms
* tour sites
The only thing I am missing right now is the beach, because I don't know
which one we are going to.
/Manuel
--
Regards
Manuel Schneider
Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens
Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge
www.wikimedia.ch
The bidding process for Wikimania 2012 is now open for business!
==DEADLINES==
Timeline: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Bids>
Important dates:
* February 6, 2011 (0:01 UTC): Bidding creation ends. List of running
cities announced.
WHAT THIS MEANS: if you want to bid, create a page on Meta (see below)
and add your city to the list. Your bid does not have to say anything
beyond "we're bidding!" at this point. New bids will not be accepted
after this date, however.
* March 18, 2011 (0:00 UTC): Bidding ends. All major information on
bidding pages must be finalized.
WHAT THIS MEANS: your bid must be complete! all information about your
proposed venue, accommodation, key team, etc. should be posted. Minor
changes (updated information, background information) will be accepted
after this date, but the critical parts of the bid should be finished.
* March 18 - April 3: Refining of bids and answering questions.
WHAT THIS MEANS: you can clarify unclear parts and add updated
information. Suddenly divulging a new venue is not ok, though.
* April 3: Question & Answer from jury ends
* March 18 - April 10: Jury deliberation.
* April 11, 2011: Announcement of host city to public.
The early timeline means that (if followed) hopefully representatives
of the winning bid will be able to attend this year's Wikimania in
Gdansk, which is very helpful for organizers.
==HELPFUL INFORMATION==
To file a bid, follow these directions:
* http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Official_requirements_for_bid…
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Official_requirements_for_bid…>
The criteria for bids, with a few minor changes from last year, are here:
* http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Judging_criteria
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Judging_criteria>
==UNOFFICIAL ADVICE==
Previous winning bids can be found linked on
Meta:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania
All winning bids have shared certain characteristics: a strong
community-based team with defined roles and leadership, a thoughtful
budget, careful consideration of the spaces Wikimania will be in, an
attention to detail and to all of the criteria, and a willingness to
improve on the last conference.
That page also has links to the suggestions for improvement that
people have made after each conference. These follow patterns too and
can be helpful to review.
As a bid team, it can be helpful to articulate -- both for yourselves
and the jury -- what you want Wikimania to be and what you envision it
being for the community.
All members of the community should feel free to discuss and analyze
bids as they are developed; this is not a sealed process. Members of
the jury have to carefully review each bid, and having any unclear
areas pointed out and discussed (and fixed) ahead of time can be very
helpful.
Finally, if you have any questions or suggestions or comments on the
bidding process, as always, post them to the talk
page:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimania_2012
If you have any questions for the Wikimania jury specifically, please
email them to myself or to James Forrester and we will pass them along to
the private jury mailing list. All private communications with the
jury are confidential.
best regards, and good luck --
Joseph Seddon
Wikimania 2012 jury moderator (non-voting)
on behalf of the 2012
jury:http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Jury
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2011/Jury>
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Dear all,
I am happy to announce (two weeks later than I had hoped) the members of the
jury for the
Wikimania 2012 bids. The complete page with links can be found at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Jury :
Jury Members
* Austain Hair (Wikimania 2005, 2006 & 2010 organisation)
* Deror Avi - (Wikimania 2011 organisation, Wikimedia Israel)
* Patricio Lorente - (Wikmania 2009 organisation, Wikimedia Argentina)
* Richard Knipel - (Wiki-Conference NYC ‘09 & ‘10 organisation, Wikimedia
New York City)
* Liam Wyatt - (GLAMWIKI ‘09 & ‘10 organisation)
* James Owen - (Wikimedia Foundation Executive assistant to Sue Gardner
& Wikimania 2010 planning)
* Achal Prabhala - (Wikimedia Foundation Advisory Board)
* Ting Chen - (Wikimedia Foundation Board Chairperson)
* Abbous Mahmoud - (Wikimedia Kenya)
* Takashi Ota - (Perennial Wikimania attendee)
Advisors
Delphine Menard - (Wikimania 2005, 2006 & 2008 organisation)
Sue Gardener - (Wikimedia Foundation - executive)
Phoebe Ayers - (Wikimedia Foudation Board)
Samuel Klein - (Wikimedia Foudation Board)
Moderators
Joseph Seddon - (2012 Bidding Coordinator, Wikimedia UK)
James Forrester - (Perennial Wikimania attendee)
Many Thanks
Joseph Seddon
Hi all,
Following from my recent email, I would like to invite people to put
themselves forward who are interested in serving on the Wikimania 2012 jury.
Please find <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania/Jury> which is a list
of general requirements.
However In short:
* Please make sure you will have some time to be involved in the selection
process, especially between January 1 and the first week of March.
* People who have attended Wikimania or who have greatly contributed to a
strong bid, or who have run other Wikimedia events; and who are otherwise
involved in the Wikimedia movement are preferred.
* There will be a representative of the board, the advisory board, and the
WMF staff on the jury. The other members should be an even mix of chapter
and non-chapter people; and the jury as a whole should be geographically
diverse and have a fair representation of both genders.
* If you are going to be contributing in a large part to a bid for 2012, you
are not advised to put your name forth for conflict of interest reasons.
If you wish to be involved in the Jury, please email me at
josephseddon(a)gmail.com
Many Thanks
Joseph Seddon
Wikimania 2012 Bidding Coordinator
Dear all
Just wanted to make a quick announcement. Following the departure of Cary I
have volunteered to coordinate the Wikimania 2012 bidding. I personally
only see this role as temporary thing since I would like to see the numerous
discussions on a permanent wikimania advisory group come to fruition as
quickly as possible. In terms of what my role description is, it will be
similar to what Cary has done in previous year which is to form a jury, set
the timeline for the bidding period, to ensure that the bidding process
remains a smooth and efficient process and preferably run to schedule.
I have already made adjustments to the bidding timeline and hopefully Ill
have the jury formed within the next few weeks. Following this email, there
will be a call to the community for people to put themselves forward to join
the jury along with a timeline for the upcoming bidding period.
If anyone has any questions feel free to drop me an email to:
josephseddon{at}googlemail.com
I look forward to seeing another round of bidding filled with fastastic high
quality bids.
Yours
Joseph Seddon
Wikimania 2012 Bidding Coordinator