Wikimania-l April 2012

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Accomodations page is now live!
by James Hare 02 May '12

02 May '12

Hello! I have posted links to the room reservation forms for our two hotel options in DC: <http://wikimania2012.wikimedia.org/wiki/Accommodation>. The two hotels we have group deals with are the Dupont Circle Hotel and the State Plaza Hotel. The Dupont Circle is an incredibly cool hotel with everything a traveling Wikimedian could want. The State Plaza Hotel is not as awesome, but it is three blocks away from the venue and costs less. (It's still a good hotel, all things considered.) With both hotels, you are allowed to have a second person stay with you for no additional cost—that way, you can split the costs with someone. We also have a sizable reservation at Hostelling International, but due to the many people receiving scholarships we cannot open that option up to the public right now. We will be adding more options later, including more low-cost rooms as well as links to cheap hotels in the suburbs. I understand that cost is an issue for many attendees, so we are working to find accommodations that will work for everyone. Regards, James Hare Coordinator, Wikimania 2012

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Request for the the letter of invitation
by Shujen Chang 01 May '12

01 May '12

I've already registered the Wikimania 2012 and filled out the visa assistance section of the registration form. I need a letter of invitation to assist my visa. My registered username on wikidc.org is Shujenchang, please check my visa assistance information. Thanks.

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Do we have IRC channel of the Wikimania?
by Shujen Chang 28 Apr '12

28 Apr '12

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Feeding until it comes out of their nostrils
by Deryck Chan 26 Apr '12

26 Apr '12

O雨話叫我解解經，咁我盡力而為啦。話說大概公元前大概1400年，當時嘅以色列係一個遊牧民族，喺埃及尼羅河三角洲一帶出沒。埃及立咗一個新皇帝，呢個皇帝同以色列族人反咗面，搞完一輪大龍鳳（史稱「十災」）之後以色列族全族撤出埃及。佢哋走呀走，過埋紅海（即係所謂嘅「摩西分紅海」）之後，喺以色列南部個沙漠度遊蕩。班友諗起以前住喺埃及嘅時候日日大魚大肉，而家反而冇啖好食，於是就發神晦氣。神就託摩西覆返班友，大致內容係咁：「你班友日日話要食肉，食食食食幪你好唔好？由聽日開始，你哋日日會有肉食，食到你厭，食到你由鼻哥窿噴返出嚟都食唔晒，滿意未？」（民數記/戶籍紀11:18-20）第二朝，唔知咩風就無啦啦吹咗勁多鵪鶉去以色列人紥營嘅地方，堆到一地都係，「足足三尺咁厚」。（民數記/戶籍紀11:31） *呢個故事教訓我哋唔好發神晦氣，因為神要同你認真嘅話你好大鑊。* 不過故事仲可以有另一重意義：神用行動證明畀我哋睇，*如果有人發你晦氣或者煩哩煩路，同佢認真其實係一個唔錯嘅解決辦法。* 想知更多，不妨自己睇《出埃及記》（又譯出谷紀）同埋《民數記》（下面譯戶籍紀）。就算你既唔信神、又唔鍾意歷史，《出埃及記》當一本小說睇其實都幾好睇。有咩問題或者唔明都可以搵我，我會盡力解答。翹 2012/4/26 Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan <yuyu(a)wikimedia.hk> > I think not everyone really understand your quote actually :) > if you can give them an explanation 解解經好 D :) > > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:05 AM, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)wikimedia.hk>wrote: > >> Surprisingly enough, I often prefer this 1970 Catholic edition when >> introducing Chinese Bible passages to non-believers. This edition has the >> most accessible language compared to other widely accepted translations. >> >> >> 2012/4/25 Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan <yuyu(a)wikimedia.hk> >> >>> for those not familiar with the bible in English >>> >>> give you a Chinese Version >>> (a catholic translation of course) >>> >>> 你對民眾說：你們聖潔自己直到明天，你們就會有肉吃，因為上主已聽見你們哀哭說：誰給我們肉吃﹖我們在埃及是多麼好! 如今上主要給你們肉吃了； >>> 不但是一天、兩天、五天、十天、二十天，你們有肉吃， >>> 而是整月，直到肉從你們的鼻子裏出來，吃的生厭，因為你們輕視了住在你們中的上主，在他面前涕泣說：為什麼我們出離了埃及﹖」戶籍紀 11:18 -20 >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)wikimedia.hk>wrote: >>> >>>> For those who, like me, wonder why we're feeding the jury and everyone >>>> else with excess information: we are merely following Almighty God's >>>> example. >>>> >>>> “Tell the people: ‘Consecrate yourselves in preparation for tomorrow, >>>> when you will eat meat. The LORD heard you when you wailed, “If only we had >>>> meat to eat! We were better off in Egypt!” Now the LORD will give you meat, >>>> and you will eat it. You will not eat it for just one day, or two days, or >>>> five, ten or twenty days, but for a whole month—until it comes out of your >>>> nostrils and you loathe it—because you have rejected the LORD, who is among >>>> you, and have wailed before him, saying, “Why did we ever leave Egypt?”’ >>>> (Numbers 11:18-20) >>>> >>>> By the grace of God we entered the race; and by the grace of God we >>>> will finish it and reap what we sow. Just some random thoughts on a >>>> Wednesday afternoon. >>>> >>>> DC >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeromy-Yu "Jerry" Chan, ARAD >>> User:Yuyu | zh.wikipedia >>> Advisor, Wikimedia Hong Kong >>> ChapCom/ComCom, Wikimedia Foundation >>> Communications Co-Head, Wikimania HK Bidding Team >>> also Jeromyu on twitter, plurk and most of places >>> http://yuyu.be/txt | http://about.me/jeromyu >>> >>> Tel (Mobile): +852 9279 1601 >>> *Lend us a simple edit, you're a Wikipedian!* >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Jeromy-Yu "Jerry" Chan, ARAD > User:Yuyu | zh.wikipedia > Advisor, Wikimedia Hong Kong > ChapCom/ComCom, Wikimedia Foundation > Communications Co-Head, Wikimania HK Bidding Team > also Jeromyu on twitter, plurk and most of places > http://yuyu.be/txt | http://about.me/jeromyu > > Tel (Mobile): +852 9279 1601 > *Lend us a simple edit, you're a Wikipedian!* > >

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Early Bird Registration Extension
by Nicholas Michael Bashour 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Dear All, The deadline for early bird-rate registration for Wikimania 2012 has been extended through April 30. Regular registration will begin May 1. Sincerely, Nicholas Michael Bashour President Wikimedia District of Columbia Washington, DC, USA

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Fwd: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27
by WereSpielChequers 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

For budget travellers there are much cheaper options available. I found this http://www.hosteldc.com/reservations.htm# place offering shared dorms at $24 a night. Though I don't know if its in a suitable part of DC for Wikimania, but it does seem to me that the organisers could still arrange budget accommodation. I suspect it would be better to try and block book some convenient cheap hostels rather than try to negotiate discounts at expensive hotels. As for me, I'm beginning to think more in terms of E participation, will there be live streaming? WSC On 23 April 2012 08:03, Deror Avi <deror_avi(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Hotel prices seem too expensive. > > I went back and checked the bid: > > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids/Washington,_D.C. > > It specificaly mentioned cheaper options - and to be specific - hostels > for 48$ per night. > > Most wikipedians can not afford much more (we are talking about 6 nights > so 1t $180 we reach almost $1,000 for accomodations, without meals, and > including flghts it may reach $2,500 per attendee). > > I do not know how it is in your country, but in my opinion, most attendees > can not afford that without full scholarships. > > Deror > > > > > > rg/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l> > > It does seem like we're being mute about things, and I do regret that. > But as a personal rule I don't like announcing things before they're > done. You have a right to complete information and that is what you > will get?once it is available. > > Here is a sneak peak. We have the "official hotel" which will run > $189/night. It is a brief walk from the venue (or you could take a $6 > taxi if you insist). It gets you some of the best free hotel wireless > in DC as well as continental breakfast. We will also be making a deal > with a $149/night hotel that is VERY close to the venue, but you have > to purchase breakfast. We also got a couple of hotels thrown in at > $149/night with free breakfast and wireless, but they are farther from > the venue (but we can easily arrange for group transportation). These > prices are before DC's ludicrous hotel tax. I'd also like to make some > beds in the hostel available for general consumption, but between all > the people receiving scholarships, I am not sure that can happen. > > If I had my druthers, we'd have cheaper hotel rates. However, the > $189/night hotel is already at a steep discount (it normally sells for > $240 in the summer) and the $149 rate is the best you will get in > Washington, DC during the summer. It is worth noting that as a > conference we are prioritizing hotels that are close to the venue > (except for the two which are farther away, but those were too good an > offer to pass up?they're NICE hotels). You are all free men and women > and are welcome to book somewhere cheaply if you can find somewhere > cheap, since we figured that those looking to save money are going to > go to Priceline no matter what. > > I shouldn't be saying this, but you may be able to get a good rate on > hotels if you book in Arlington; specifically, near the Rosslyn, Court > House, or Clarendon metro stations. Those are all on the same line as > the venue (located by the Foggy Bottom?GWU station), but are urbanized > enough areas that you don't need a car. Additionally, since they are > outside the city and in Virginia, the hotel tax is significantly > cheaper. If you're of limited means, consider booking in Arlington. If > you can afford the extra cost and would like to stay close to the > venue, adjacent to our special events and to great neighborhoods in > general, and in close proximity to other Wikipedians, please consider > the hotels we'll be promoting on our website soon. > > I can't wait to see you all at Wikimania! > > Regards, > James Hare > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org<http://us.mc318.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=Wikimania-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > End of Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27 > ******************************************* > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >

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Scholarship and early registration
by Jeromy-Yu Maximilian Chan 24 Apr '12

24 Apr '12

Hi all A number of fellow Wikipedians had noticed that The early bird rate for this year's Wikimania Registration will not available soon on 23 Apr However there is not yet any sign of announcement of the scholarship So I wonder if the DC team would suggest definate-will-go applicants register first Then sort of reimbursing later if required? lOOking forward to any reply from the DC OCs soon. 自吾之埃拍 Sent from my iPad

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Badges
by Deryck Chan 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Dear organizing team, Thanks for offering 4 check-boxes for the details on the badge! May I ask, how will the details be presented? I think it'll be a useful piece of information for many of us whose username is the same as our real name. If it looks like First Last username project it'll be a bit redundant for us to have our name written exactly the same way twice; but if it looks like First Last [[User:Username]]@project then it'll be useful to have both. Also, on the drop-down menu for project there is only wikipedia, wikibooks etc. but not a choice of the language. Will that be a useful thing to have? Deryck

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Badge
by Alan C Y Lai (Wikimedia) 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Deryck has raised a fair point on real names on badges, as this would rise up during checking-in: for real names do you mean the one on documents or do you mean the one we are normally called? I'm usually called Alan but it's nowhere in my official identification papers bear that name! I'm not sure about the situation of Deryck but I supposed many Hongkongers could face a dilemma if a strict real name policy is pursued at the door! Alan Sent on the road On 23 Apr, 2012, at 22:26, wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org wrote: > Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to > wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wikimania-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Badges (Deryck Chan) > 2. Re: Badges (Florence Devouard) > 3. Re: Badges (Joseph Seddon) > 4. Re: Badges (Nicholas Michael Bashour) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:14:58 +0100 > From: Deryck Chan <deryckchan(a)gmail.com> > To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" > <wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Badges > Message-ID: > <CA+F5PQ_Tw8o7yfywzxJy8wk3_T_gvByq4WqS63bEhe_dzbLrjg(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy > reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other > offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could > turn them away, just saying... > > On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour > <nicholasbashour(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only >> the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their >> real name associated with a username should only provide their first and >> last. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Nicholas Michael Bashour >> President >> Wikimedia District of Columbia >> Washington, DC, USA >> >> >> >> 2012/4/23 Delphine M?nard <notafishz(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour >>> <nicholasbashour(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may >>> not have a username. I suggest >>>> >>>> First Last >>>> Username (optional) >>>> Affiliation >>> >>> Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real >>> name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember >>> if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should >>> probably be something like: >>> >>>> First Last (optional if Username is provided) >>>> Username (optional if First Last is provided) >>>> Affiliation (if provided) >>> >>> best, >>> >>> Delphine >>> -- >>> @notafish >>> >>> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will >>> get lost. >>> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive - >>> http://blog.notanendive.org >>> Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >>> Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> Wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> >

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Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27
by Deror Avi 23 Apr '12

23 Apr '12

Hotel prices seem too expensive. I went back and checked the bid: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2012/Bids/Washington,_D.C. It specificaly mentioned cheaper options - and to be specific - hostels for 48$ per night. Most wikipedians can not afford much more (we are talking about 6 nights so 1t $180 we reach almost $1,000 for accomodations, without meals, and including flghts it may reach $2,500 per attendee). I do not know how it is in your country, but in my opinion, most attendees can not afford that without full scholarships. Deror --- On Sun, 4/22/12, wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: From: wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 27 To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Date: Sunday, April 22, 2012, 5:32 PM Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org You can reach the person managing the list at wikimania-l-owner(a)lists.wikimedia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Maarten Dammers) 2. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Sage Ross) 3. Re: Scholarship and early registration (stephen wanjau) 4. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton) 5. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Samat) 6. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Tomasz Koz?owski) 7. Re: Scholarship and early registration (Thomas Dalton) 8. Re: Scholarship and early registration (James Hare) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:09:39 +0200 From: Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Scholarship and early registration Message-ID: <4F940313.8020905(a)mdammers.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" Op 19-4-2012 18:32, Samat schreef: > You are so impatient, Orsi :) > Sage said:/very/ close. This is not impatience. Organization is just very late. Last year the scholarships were announced end of March, four months in advance of Wikimania 2011. Now it's only 81 days left for Wikimania 2012. It's a bit like the hotels, "almost done" since the beginning of April. Maarten

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