I am afriad that virtual embassy also issues virtual visas. it still just a
word nothing solid yet
Mardetanha
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> From: B?ria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com>
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> Sorry Roan, I wanted to say the same thing you did but i failed.
>
> 2nd attempt: Citizens from any other country, with a canadian visa, still
> need a USA visa to get into USA.
>
> Or more detailed in Roan's mail ;)
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> On 2 November 2011 10:35, Roan Kattouw <roan.kattouw(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:04 AM, B?ria Lima <berialima(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Justin, canadians also need visa to be in USA, so ask for a canandian
> > visa
> > > doesn't help.
> > Canadians don't need a visa for most short visits. But by "Canadians"
> > I mean people with a Canadian passport. If you have a Brazilian
> > passport, it doesn't matter how you enter the US (by air, land or sea,
> > directly from Brazil or via Canada), you will need a US visa. A
> > Canadian visa won't help you get into the US at all: the US and Canada
> > are separate countries with border controls between them (the border
> > isn't open like the one between the UK and Ireland, or the borders
> > between Schengen countries in Europe).
> >
> > That said, I hear it's possible to get a visa from a US consulate in
> > Canada, which I presume will have shorter waiting times than some
> > consulates elsewhere. But this is probably not allowed in most
> > circumstances if you're not a Canadian citizen. In the OP's case where
> > his country of citizenship doesn't have a consulate or embassy and
> > he's gonna have to apply in a third country anyway, it might just be
> > allowed, I guess. But Canada is a lot farther from Iran than Turkey or
> > the UAE and doesn't have visa-free travel for Iranians either, so
> > you'd have to get a visa in order to get a visa :P . I wouldn't know
> > what sort of choice you have in choosing the country where you apply
> > for a visa and whether you're allowed to apply in a country farther
> > away from Iran where waiting times are shorter. You should probably
> > talk to an immigration lawyer about that sort of thing.
> >
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http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
Hello everyone,
As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! Yeah.
But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it but I wanna clarify to you.
U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left over need a visa to enter in.
Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could appeal, and would take more two months.
It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US really isn't easy.
What do you think?
_____________________
MateusNobre
Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
(+55) 85 88393509
30440865
And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or
UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the
minimum time that i need to apply
Mardetanha
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> From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk>
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> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> and always can be denied.
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
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> (+55) 85 88393509
> 30440865
>
>
> From: mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk
> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
>
> A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
> avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> (+55) 85 88393509
> 30440865
>
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
> From: berialima(a)gmail.com
> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
>
> We also have wikipt(a)lists.wikimedia.org , lista(a)wikimedia.pt and
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't
> follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can
> be ;) )
> _____
> B?ria Lima
> (351) 925 171 484
>
> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
>
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone
> may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries
> is really hard....
>
>
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
>
> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> (+55) 85 88393509
>
> 30440865
>
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
> From: berialima(a)gmail.com
>
> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
> How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
> made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
> scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
> visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
> now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
> result for your application.
>
> _____
> B?ria Lima
> (351) 925 171 484
>
> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
> Yeah.
>
> But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
> but I wanna clarify to you.
>
>
>
> U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
> over need a visa to enter in.
>
> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best
> moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops
> :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
>
>
> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
>
> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
> 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
> the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
> When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
> Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
> appeal, and would take more two months.
>
>
>
> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
>
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
> really isn't easy.
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
> _____________________
> MateusNobre
>
>
> Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
> (+55) 85 88393509
>
>
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without official invitation letter and so, there is no merit in wasting in
US embassy, they won't issue visa at all
Mardetanha
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> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:17:26 +0300
> From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk>
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> I think it's better you advance your visa...
>
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>
> From: mardetanha.wiki(a)gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:32:08 +0330
> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4
>
> And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or
> UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the
> minimum time that i need to apply Mardetanha
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:19 AM, <wikimania-l-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
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> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:59 +0300
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> From: Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk>
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> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
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>
>
>
>
> Yeah Thomas, I forgot that.
>
> It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two
> months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other
> countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky
> and always can be denied.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____________________
>
> MateusNobre
>
> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> (+55) 85 88393509
>
> 30440865
>
>
>
>
>
> From: mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk
>
> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300
>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists.
>
>
>
> A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could
> avoid problems to Wikimania staff.
>
>
>
> _____________________
>
> MateusNobre
>
> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> (+55) 85 88393509
>
> 30440865
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000
>
> From: berialima(a)gmail.com
>
> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
>
>
> wikimediabr-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org is there for this.
>
>
>
> We also have wikipt(a)lists.wikimedia.org , lista(a)wikimedia.pt and
> http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't
> follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can
> be ;) )
>
>
>
> _____
>
> B?ria Lima
>
> (351) 925 171 484
>
>
>
> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone
> may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries
> is really hard....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____________________
>
> MateusNobre
>
>
>
> MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> (+55) 85 88393509
>
>
>
> 30440865
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000
>
> From: berialima(a)gmail.com
>
>
>
> To: wikimania-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue
>
>
>
> How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are
> made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the
> scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for
> visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request
> now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a
> result for your application.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> B?ria Lima
>
> (351) 925 171 484
>
>
>
> Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter
> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que
> estamos a fazer.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <mateus.nobre(a)live.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
> As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.!
> Yeah.
>
>
>
> But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it
> but I wanna clarify to you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left
> over need a visa to enter in.
>
>
>
> Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best
> moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops
> :D) and WMF contacted me six months before.
>
>
>
>
>
> In this ''six months before'' have one problem.
>
>
>
> In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take
> 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and
> the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa.
> When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of
> Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could
> appeal, and would take more two months.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And
> happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A.
>
>
>
> I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early.
> Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US
> really isn't easy.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> What do you think?
>
>
>
> _____________________
>
> MateusNobre
>
>
>
>
>
> Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects
>
> (+55) 85 88393509
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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