-----Original Message----- From: William Pietri [mailto:william@scissor.com] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:29 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Can you all stop carrying on about whether Slate is an attack site, please?
Christiano Moreschi wrote:
Oh, come off it, that's ridiculous (I assume you're all still talking about attack sites). Attack sites cannot possibly be relevant to more than a score of articles. The fact that such a tiny number of articles clogs up so much drama is ridiculous. Wikipedia has much more grave problems.
Respectfully, I disagree.
It's true that the issue itself is tiny. But I think the proposed solution -- one apparently currently in use -- undermines one of Wikpedia's fundamental mechanisms, that of open discussion leading to community consensus.
I feel similarly about a number of things that the Bush administration has gotten up to. On the grand scale, their current transgressions -- the Iraq war aside -- really aren't that large. A little snooping, some dubious arrests, a little God mixed in with government, a bit of crony capitalism. But I believe that accepting them puts the US on a path that could result in the destruction of core principles that I value deeply.
I'm glad to let go any number of things where I'm on the wrong side of the consensus; I trust that we'll work them out eventually. But I believe that a damnatio memoriae policy a dose of mandatory goodthink will harm our very ability to work things out.
William
fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
You continue to be quite mixed about what we are going to do about the article in Slate. Slate is not going to be treated as an attack site. Linking to that particular article is discouraged. You continue to flail away at phantoms of your own imagining.
I understand that you believe that. But I also believe you misunderstand my point. So I'm taking your comment here as further misunderstanding, rather than a useful correction. Sorry.
William