-----Original Message----- From: The Mangoe [mailto:the.mangoe@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2007 08:01 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattack site link policy
On 7/5/07, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
KM's edit summary n inserting the links was "vague ArbCom statements from 8 months ago aren't policy. that ArbCom case pertained to ED and the links were being used for harassment. this link is genuinely informative." http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Essjay_controversy&diff=next&a... and on examining what was inserted, no confidential or abusive material was linked to.
Well, it's convenient that they could find another source without having to link to the WR thread, but it also seems that the thread is a better source, in spite of the snarky commentary within it. Those with any strength of stomach would find it an excellent transcript of the issue, and it really ought to be linked to, particularly since it most closely documents Brandt's inquiries.
This is acceptable as research into a Wikipedia event for our own purposes. It has no place in any article as original research.
Fred
On 7/5/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
This is acceptable as research into a Wikipedia event for our own purposes. It has no place in any article as original research.
Um, no. Simply citing an original source is not in itself original research, and in any case it can be (and really ought to be0 linked to as an external link. Anyway, whatever happened to "Wikipedia is not censored"? People should understand that links to external sites may lead them to less-than-pleasant reading experiences.
I had not come across this thread before, but it seems to me that linking to it does improve the encyclopedia, in article space no less. The risk of people wandering off and finding the other (supposedly inaccurate) revelations of identity seems overstated in comparison; indeed, the thread really doesn't give any indication they are even there, as far as I can tell (except for the link to DB's "hivemind" pages, which at any given time may or may not be there).