On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:32:27PM -0800, Zoe wrote: The information is not misogynistic, it is true. Labelling this person a vandal does a disservice to the Wikipedia. The traditional treatment in the West for hysteria was for the doctor to massage a womans genitals by hand until she got some relief. The most extreme forms of hysteria are not seen very much in modern times; some attribute this to a greater interest in giving sexual satisfaction to women. The milder forms of hysteria still abound; if males have a propensity for hysteria, it is socialized out of them at a very young age. Jonathan -- Geek House Productions, Ltd. Providing Unix & Internet Contracting and Consulting, QA Testing, Technical Documentation, Systems Design & Implementation, General Programming, E-commerce, Web & Mail Services since 1998 Phone: 604-435-1205 Email: djw(a)reactor-core.org Webpage: http://reactor-core.org Address: 2459 E 41st Ave, Vancouver, BC V5R2W2

rednblack(a)alum.mit.edu wrote: This particular incident, taken out of context, would not qualify as vandalism -- just a really bad edit. But we have more context here. --Jimbo

|From: Jonathan Walther <krooger(a)debian.org> |Content-Disposition: inline |Sender: wikien-l-admin(a)wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org |Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:21:25 -0800 | | |--vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd |Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed |Content-Disposition: inline |Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable | |On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:32:27PM -0800, Zoe wrote: |> It's the exact same wording as the text inserted by the MIT vandal. I |> asked the person inserting it to give us some information to prove the |> assertion, and I asked if it was true for the entire world, or only |> certain cultures. The person declined to do so. | |The information is not misogynistic, it is true. Labelling this person |a vandal does a disservice to the Wikipedia. The traditional treatment |in the West for hysteria was for the doctor to massage a womans genitals |by hand until she got some relief. The most extreme forms of hysteria |are not seen very much in modern times; some attribute this to a greater |interest in giving sexual satisfaction to women. The milder forms of |hysteria still abound; if males have a propensity for hysteria, it is |socialized out of them at a very young age. | |Jonathan | A misogynist, but not a vandal. Anorexia, bulimia, borderline personality disorder,, and histrionic personality disorder are generally more common in women, according to my wife, the psychotherapist. She adds, however, that hysteria is the NPOV ringer here, being a 19th century diagnosis that is no longer used (nor is the treatment mentioned above). Even in the 19th, men were diagnosed with it, but not given the analogous treatment. More common in men than women: anti-social personality disorder. The prisons are full of them, she says. Also, most psychopaths and sociopaths are men. Tom Parmenter Ortolan88

But is anorexia a female-constant in all cultures? Is it even as prevalent in Europe as it is in the US? Zoe Tom Parmenter <tompar(a)world.std.com> wrote:|From: Jonathan Walther |Content-Disposition: inline |Sender: wikien-l-admin(a)wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org |Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:21:25 -0800 | | |--vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd |Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed |Content-Disposition: inline |Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable | |On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 12:32:27PM -0800, Zoe wrote: |> It's the exact same wording as the text inserted by the MIT vandal. I |> asked the person inserting it to give us some information to prove the |> assertion, and I asked if it was true for the entire world, or only |> certain cultures. The person declined to do so. | |The information is not misogynistic, it is true. Labelling this person |a vandal does a disservice to the Wikipedia. The traditional treatment |in the West for hysteria was for the doctor to massage a womans genitals |by hand until she got some relief. The most extreme forms of hysteria |are not seen very much in modern times; some attribute this to a greater |interest in giving sexual satisfaction to women. The milder forms of |hysteria still abound; if males have a propensity for hysteria, it is |socialized out of them at a very young age. | |Jonathan | A misogynist, but not a vandal. Anorexia, bulimia, borderline personality disorder,, and histrionic personality disorder are generally more common in women, according to my wife, the psychotherapist. She adds, however, that hysteria is the NPOV ringer here, being a 19th century diagnosis that is no longer used (nor is the treatment mentioned above). Even in the 19th, men were diagnosed with it, but not given the analogous treatment. More common in men than women: anti-social personality disorder. The prisons are full of them, she says. Also, most psychopaths and sociopaths are men. Tom Parmenter Ortolan88 _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day