Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
Just a thought.
Marc
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Marc Riddell wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
Just a thought.
Marc
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In reference to what article?
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Marc Riddell wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
Just a thought.
Marc
on 7/26/08 2:14 PM, Jon at scream@datascreamer.com wrote:
In reference to what article?
In reference to the entire Project.
Marc
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Marc Riddell wrote:
Marc Riddell wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
Just a thought.
Marc
on 7/26/08 2:14 PM, Jon at scream@datascreamer.com wrote:
In reference to what article?
In reference to the entire Project.
Marc
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On Saturday 26 July 2008 13:25, Marc Riddell wrote:
Marc Riddell wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
Just a thought.
Marc
on 7/26/08 2:14 PM, Jon at scream@datascreamer.com wrote:
In reference to what article?
In reference to the entire Project.
Marc
Except here, bigger IS better.
More information is superior to less information.
So where's the relevance here?
2008/7/26 Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net:
In reference to the entire Project.
What is this Project of which you speak?
The happiness of the contributors, scope, size or quality of articles are obviously far more important than any Project.
Marc
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
So what's better about McDonald's now?
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Rob gamaliel8@gmail.com wrote:
So what's better about McDonald's now?
They introduced more salad (that would be our Single User Login) and the Kid's Menu has now an easy coding system for the amount of fat and salt at the side of the box (that would be our board reshuffling).
To make the comparison even more perfect, have a very close look at the new Ronald McDonald impersonator. :)
on 7/26/08 2:46 PM, Rob at gamaliel8@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
So what's better about McDonald's now?
For one thing (and what's important in their world) their bottom line has stayed strong - even grown - where others are struggling. And, thanks to some new leadership in that direction, they are placing more emphasis on the quality of their workplace environment. Starbucks is another example of another company rethinking its philosophy.
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Marc
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
on 7/26/08 2:46 PM, Rob at gamaliel8@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
So what's better about McDonald's now?
For one thing (and what's important in their world) their bottom line has stayed strong - even grown - where others are struggling. And, thanks to some new leadership in that direction, they are placing more emphasis on the quality of their workplace environment. Starbucks is another example of another company rethinking its philosophy.
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Would this explain why so many users are retiring?
- GlassCobra
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
on 7/26/08 2:46 PM, Rob at gamaliel8@gmail.com wrote:
So what's better about McDonald's now?
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net
wrote:
For one thing (and what's important in their world) their bottom line has stayed strong - even grown - where others are struggling. And, thanks to some new leadership in that direction, they are placing more emphasis on the quality of their workplace environment. Starbucks is another example of another company rethinking its philosophy.
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Marc
on 7/27/08 12:50 AM, Alex Sawczynec at glasscobra15@gmail.com wrote:
Would this explain why so many users are retiring?
Sounds like a good explanation to me, Alex. Even the most loyal employee still has a pride in themselves and in their work. In an unhealthy, abusive work environment it is only a matter of time before they do the healthy thing and leave. There are, or will be, other places to work that will not regard them as merely expendable.
Marc
2008/7/27 Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net:
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:10 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Interesting statement by Jim Skinner, CEO of McDonald's on CNN today. He said one of the biggest reasons McDonald's is doing so well during the recent economic slowdown is their change of focus from being bigger, to being better.
on 7/26/08 2:46 PM, Rob at gamaliel8@gmail.com wrote:
So what's better about McDonald's now?
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net
wrote:
For one thing (and what's important in their world) their bottom line has stayed strong - even grown - where others are struggling. And, thanks to some new leadership in that direction, they are placing more emphasis on the quality of their workplace environment. Starbucks is another example of another company rethinking its philosophy.
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Marc
on 7/27/08 12:50 AM, Alex Sawczynec at glasscobra15@gmail.com wrote:
Would this explain why so many users are retiring?
Sounds like a good explanation to me, Alex. Even the most loyal employee still has a pride in themselves and in their work. In an unhealthy, abusive work environment it is only a matter of time before they do the healthy thing and leave. There are, or will be, other places to work that will not regard them as merely expendable.
Marc
Nah standard MMOPRG turnover and people just generally moving on explains most of the turnover.
Alex Sawczynec wrote:
Would this explain why so many users are retiring?
I, for one, have found myself not editing nearly as much as I used to in recent months. I'm pretty sure that dropoff started for me with the Characters and Episodes debacle. Even though I don't generally contribute to such articles myself seeing so much work being systematically thrown away was very disheartening and makes me wonder whether my contributions in other areas will be kept.
Quantity is a quality of its own, IMO. Wikipedia's comprehensiveness of coverage is one of its big strengths.
Characters and episodes? Ha! That was nothing! We're coming for your bridges next!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Turner_Falls_Ro...
:)
Michel Vuijlsteke
2008/7/27 Bryan Derksen bryan.derksen@shaw.ca
Alex Sawczynec wrote:
Would this explain why so many users are retiring?
I, for one, have found myself not editing nearly as much as I used to in recent months. I'm pretty sure that dropoff started for me with the Characters and Episodes debacle. Even though I don't generally contribute to such articles myself seeing so much work being systematically thrown away was very disheartening and makes me wonder whether my contributions in other areas will be kept.
Quantity is a quality of its own, IMO. Wikipedia's comprehensiveness of coverage is one of its big strengths.
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On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipedia@zog.org wrote:
Characters and episodes? Ha! That was nothing! We're coming for your bridges next!
That's pretty fucking ridiculous.
Makes me pretty spitting mad, in fact.
-Matt
2008/7/27 Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipedia@zog.org wrote:
Characters and episodes? Ha! That was nothing! We're coming for your bridges next!
That's pretty fucking ridiculous.
Makes me pretty spitting mad, in fact.
People deleting per guideline, rather than policy, makes me mad.
On Sunday 27 July 2008 18:02, James Farrar wrote:
2008/7/27 Matthew Brown morven@gmail.com:
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipedia@zog.org
wrote:
Characters and episodes? Ha! That was nothing! We're coming for your bridges next!
That's pretty fucking ridiculous.
Makes me pretty spitting mad, in fact.
People deleting per guideline, rather than policy, makes me mad.
What's the difference?
They're both equally irrelevant, non-prescriptive, and non-binding.
Michel Vuijlsteke wrote:
Characters and episodes? Ha! That was nothing! We're coming for your bridges next!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Turner_Falls_Ro...
Well, a couple of Tron-related character articles just went up for deletion (presumably sparked by interest in the sequel, perversely enough), and at least they actually went to AfD and a note was dropped on my talk page about one of them instead of them just vanishing. So I guess I'll see how the climate is these days.
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008, Bryan Derksen wrote:
Would this explain why so many users are retiring?
I, for one, have found myself not editing nearly as much as I used to in recent months. I'm pretty sure that dropoff started for me with the Characters and Episodes debacle. Even though I don't generally contribute to such articles myself seeing so much work being systematically thrown away was very disheartening and makes me wonder whether my contributions in other areas will be kept.
Quantity is a quality of its own, IMO. Wikipedia's comprehensiveness of coverage is one of its big strengths.
Spoiler warnings and episodes were what did it for me; I only edit occasionally now. Webcomics didn't help either, though I pretty much learned of that one after the fact.
2008/7/26 Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Which includes the knowledge that their work is valued, not subject to arbitrary destruction.
2008/7/26 Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net:
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Excellent. Assuming the corollary works, this suggests we can get rid of a lot of our problem users by cunningly increasing our use of <blink> and <marquee> tags in some kind of specifically-targeted CSS...
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Ever since I've heard it, I've always been a fan of the Wegman's philosophy of "employees first, customers second". Keeping the analogy to Wikipedia, I'd say this is one area Wikipedia is lacking. Some people even have suggested that people don't matter, only the end product matters (unfortunately I can't find the quote).
Anyway, I don't think you'll find much of an argument that quality is of higher importance than quantity. It's in the details of how to implement that philosophy where the disputes occur. In fact, I was just writing about one such dispute earlier today: http://blog.p2pedia.org/2008/07/barrapunto-or-how-i-learned-to-stop.html
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Bottom line? If you want a customer to return, you give them a quality product. If you want a good employee to stay, you give them a quality workplace.
Indeed. Though important to remember the context we'd be approaching this from: volunteer efforts frequently have high turnover, and online communities especially so.
Not to say we shouldn't worry about such things. More than a few people have told me they tried editing Wikipedia, got flamed for it, and left. Hard to say whether they ran into a legitimate troll or a harsh wall of policies, instead of a welcome mat, of course, but obviously something didn't quite work out right.
-Luna