At what point do deletions of images, paragraphs, etc., cross the border from edits to becoming either violations of NPOV or even vandalism? I keep running into one editor who deletes whole sections of information with no explanation or a simple dismissal, e.g., "untrue assertion," "no evidence for this," or sometimes appeal to authority. I think there is an honest disagreement about the subject matter under editing, but simply deleting inconvenient facts or assertions is imho bad, and possibly unacceptable, behavior.
Leif (Leifern)
Which articles are you referring to?
Stacey [[User:UtherSRG]]
On 5/13/05, Leif Knutsen vyerllc@gmail.com wrote:
At what point do deletions of images, paragraphs, etc., cross the border from edits to becoming either violations of NPOV or even vandalism? I keep running into one editor who deletes whole sections of information with no explanation or a simple dismissal, e.g., "untrue assertion," "no evidence for this," or sometimes appeal to authority. I think there is an honest disagreement about the subject matter under editing, but simply deleting inconvenient facts or assertions is imho bad, and possibly unacceptable, behavior.
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Stacey Greenstein wrote:
Which articles are you referring to?
Stacey [[User:UtherSRG]]
I don't think it matters ATM, according to OpenFacts:
Speed Availability SLOW MOSTLY UNAVAILABLE
Is it time for another fundraising drive?
- -- Alphax GnuPG key: 0xF874C613 - http://tinyurl.com/8mpg9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, 'Thy will be done,' and those to whom God says, 'All right, then, have it your way.' - C. S. Lewis
Alphax wrote:
I don't think it matters ATM, according to OpenFacts:
Speed Availability SLOW MOSTLY UNAVAILABLE
Is it time for another fundraising drive?
When you have 50 servers and only one of them is an image server, you're bound to have problems. The image server problem is 99% due to developer/sysadmin time constraints. It will be partly fixed with MediaWiki 1.5.
-- Tim Starling
We should ALWAYS make sure there is a backup server for servers with a particular purpose (i.e., there should not be just ONE photo-related server, there should be a second photo-related server as well).
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Tim Starling wrote:
Alphax wrote:
I don't think it matters ATM, according to OpenFacts:
Speed Availability SLOW MOSTLY UNAVAILABLE
Is it time for another fundraising drive?
When you have 50 servers and only one of them is an image server, you're bound to have problems. The image server problem is 99% due to developer/sysadmin time constraints. It will be partly fixed with MediaWiki 1.5.
-- Tim Starling
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We could always use some more money.
On Sat, 14 May 2005, Alphax wrote:
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Stacey Greenstein wrote:
Which articles are you referring to?
Stacey [[User:UtherSRG]]
I don't think it matters ATM, according to OpenFacts:
Speed Availability SLOW MOSTLY UNAVAILABLE
Is it time for another fundraising drive?
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On 5/13/05, Leif Knutsen vyerllc@gmail.com wrote:
At what point do deletions of images, paragraphs, etc., cross the border from edits to becoming either violations of NPOV or even vandalism? I keep running into one editor who deletes whole sections of information with no explanation or a simple dismissal, e.g., "untrue assertion," "no evidence for this," or sometimes appeal to authority. I think there is an honest disagreement about the subject matter under editing, but simply deleting inconvenient facts or assertions is imho bad, and possibly unacceptable, behavior.
Leif (Leifern)
When it fills one of the defintions listed at [[Wikipedia:Vandalism]]
It's hard to say without knowing more details. Many of us act that way about material that we honestly feel is worthless. Please give some example of specific edits and images. That way we will have a better feel for what is going on.
Provisionally, without looking at what is being deleted, such behavior is unacceptable.
Fred
From: Leif Knutsen vyerllc@gmail.com Reply-To: vyer@earthlink.net, English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 10:53:00 -0400 To: wikien-l@wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] When do deletions become vandalism
At what point do deletions of images, paragraphs, etc., cross the border from edits to becoming either violations of NPOV or even vandalism? I keep running into one editor who deletes whole sections of information with no explanation or a simple dismissal, e.g., "untrue assertion," "no evidence for this," or sometimes appeal to authority. I think there is an honest disagreement about the subject matter under editing, but simply deleting inconvenient facts or assertions is imho bad, and possibly unacceptable, behavior.
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