To whom it may concern:
I believe that I have been blocked by an administrator for frivolous reasons, as part of a campaign of personal animosity that constitutes [[Wikipedia:Harassment]]. The administrator in question is Willmcw, and the ostensible reasons for the block are posted at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...]. My initial responses are also available at that location and at [[Talk:American System (economics)]]. Further response on those pages by me has, of course, been blocked.
If you will examine this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Willmcw#LaRouche] ...on Willmcw's talk page, you will note that, despite the rather furtive language, the topic is the best means to prevent "H", that is, myself, from editing. Willmcw and his correspondent, SlimVirgin, are clearly aware of the impropriety of either of them banning me, since they have both engaged me in protracted POV conflicts. They also make reference to recent discussions of "WikiCliques or POV posses," indicating that they are aware that their behavior is under scrutiny. SlimVirgin advises Willmcw to persuade a third party, Snowspinner, to block me.
In this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snowspinner#ArbCom_enforcement] ...Willmcw approaches Snowspinner on this matter. We have only Willmcw's side of the discussion, but it is apparent that Snowspinner is unwilling to be a party to it. Willmcw then decided to block me himself that same day.
The portion of the relevant ArbCom decision which is used to justify the ban is the following: "4) Herschelkrustofsky is placed on POV parole for up to and including one year. If he re-inserts any edits which are judged by a majority of those commenting on the relevant talk page in a 24-hour poll to be a violation of the NPOV policy, then he shall be temp-banned for a short time, up to one week." In the talk page in question ([[Talk: American System (economics)]], there are a grand total of two participants: Willmcw and myself. Therefore it is certainly questionable as to whether "a majority of those commenting" took Willmcw's side in the matter. Willmcw apparent sought to obfuscate this matter in this edit: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:American_System_%28economics%...]. Willmcw had the option of posting a Request for Comment in hopes of soliciting some allies, but he did not avail himself of this option.
My request to readers of this list, is that they examine the relevant talk page and other exchanges, to determine whether this ban by Willmcw was not made frivolously and maliciously. -HK
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On Oct 4, 2005, at 10:49 AM, Herschel Krustofsky wrote:
In this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ User_talk:Snowspinner#ArbCom_enforcement] ...Willmcw approaches Snowspinner on this matter. We have only Willmcw's side of the discussion, but it is apparent that Snowspinner is unwilling to be a party to it.
To be clear, I totally support Willmcw on this, and apologize to him for not getting back to him - it was a busy week.
-Snowspinner
On 10/4/05, Herschel Krustofsky hersch_krustofsky@yahoo.com wrote:
I believe that I have been blocked by an administrator for frivolous reasons, as part of a campaign of personal animosity that constitutes [[Wikipedia:Harassment]]. The administrator in question is Willmcw, and the ostensible reasons for the block are posted at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...]. > If you will examine this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Willmcw#LaRouche] ...on Willmcw's talk page, you will note that, despite the rather furtive language, the topic is the best means to prevent "H", that is, myself, from editing. Willmcw and his correspondent, SlimVirgin, are clearly aware of the impropriety of either of them banning me, since they have both engaged me in protracted POV conflicts. They also make reference to recent discussions of "WikiCliques or POV posses," indicating that they are aware that their behavior is under scrutiny. SlimVirgin advises Willmcw to persuade a third party, Snowspinner, to block me.
The discussion between myself and Will on his talk page was not "furtive." I called you H only because Herschelkrustofsky is a long word. I didn't advise him to "persuade" Snowspinner to block you: I advised him to refer the matter to Snowspinner only to be safe. In the end, Will correctly took the matter to [[WP:AN/I]], where you accused him of "harassment" and "wikistalking," and received a reply from Fred Bauder saying: "Enforcement of the Arbitration remedies which have been enacted concerning Herschelkrustofsky is not Wikistalking. It is doing your job." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AN/I#Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration.2FLy...
The fact is that you appear to have resumed your behavior of inserting pro-LaRouche material into articles in violation of the injunction against you. The arbcom ruled that the IP address identified with you counts as a sockpuppet of yours. You had ample opportunity at the time to explain either that it wasn't yours, or that it was in a house or office containing more than one person who might be making pro-LaRouche edits to the same articles you were editing. You chose not to offer any such explanation, and so the arbcom ruling stands, and Will was right to block you and to reset your ban.
Sarah
In my opinion wide discretion was granted to Wikipedia administrators in the matter. It was contemplated that any administrator who encountered editing by HK which violated the remedy should block him regardless of whether they were involved in a dispute with them. The obvious solution for HK is to not edit articles which deal with politics or religion and not to share an ip with anyone who is likely to. The views of Lyndon La Rouche can be disseminated via other media; we are only restricting their use of Wikipedia.
Fred
On Oct 4, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Herschel Krustofsky wrote:
To whom it may concern:
I believe that I have been blocked by an administrator for frivolous reasons, as part of a campaign of personal animosity that constitutes [[Wikipedia:Harassment]]. The administrator in question is Willmcw, and the ostensible reasons for the block are posted at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators% 27_noticeboard/Incidents#Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration. 2FLyndon_LaRouche_2]. My initial responses are also available at that location and at [[Talk:American System (economics)]]. Further response on those pages by me has, of course, been blocked.
If you will examine this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ User_talk:Willmcw#LaRouche] ...on Willmcw's talk page, you will note that, despite the rather furtive language, the topic is the best means to prevent "H", that is, myself, from editing. Willmcw and his correspondent, SlimVirgin, are clearly aware of the impropriety of either of them banning me, since they have both engaged me in protracted POV conflicts. They also make reference to recent discussions of "WikiCliques or POV posses," indicating that they are aware that their behavior is under scrutiny. SlimVirgin advises Willmcw to persuade a third party, Snowspinner, to block me.
In this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ User_talk:Snowspinner#ArbCom_enforcement] ...Willmcw approaches Snowspinner on this matter. We have only Willmcw's side of the discussion, but it is apparent that Snowspinner is unwilling to be a party to it. Willmcw then decided to block me himself that same day.
The portion of the relevant ArbCom decision which is used to justify the ban is the following: "4) Herschelkrustofsky is placed on POV parole for up to and including one year. If he re-inserts any edits which are judged by a majority of those commenting on the relevant talk page in a 24- hour poll to be a violation of the NPOV policy, then he shall be temp-banned for a short time, up to one week." In the talk page in question ([[Talk: American System (economics)]], there are a grand total of two participants: Willmcw and myself. Therefore it is certainly questionable as to whether "a majority of those commenting" took Willmcw's side in the matter. Willmcw apparent sought to obfuscate this matter in this edit: [http:// en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:American_System_%28economics %29&diff=24356839&oldid=24353961]. Willmcw had the option of posting a Request for Comment in hopes of soliciting some allies, but he did not avail himself of this option.
My request to readers of this list, is that they examine the relevant talk page and other exchanges, to determine whether this ban by Willmcw was not made frivolously and maliciously. -HK
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Herschel Krustofsky wrote:
To whom it may concern:
I believe that I have been blocked by an administrator for frivolous reasons, as part of a campaign of personal animosity that constitutes [[Wikipedia:Harassment]]. The administrator in question is Willmcw, and the ostensible reasons for the block are posted at [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...]. My initial responses are also available at that location and at [[Talk:American System (economics)]]. Further response on those pages by me has, of course, been blocked.
If you will examine this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Willmcw#LaRouche] ...on Willmcw's talk page, you will note that, despite the rather furtive language, the topic is the best means to prevent "H", that is, myself, from editing. Willmcw and his correspondent, SlimVirgin, are clearly aware of the impropriety of either of them banning me, since they have both engaged me in protracted POV conflicts. They also make reference to recent discussions of "WikiCliques or POV posses," indicating that they are aware that their behavior is under scrutiny. SlimVirgin advises Willmcw to persuade a third party, Snowspinner, to block me.
In this exchange: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Snowspinner#ArbCom_enforcement] ...Willmcw approaches Snowspinner on this matter. We have only Willmcw's side of the discussion, but it is apparent that Snowspinner is unwilling to be a party to it. Willmcw then decided to block me himself that same day.
The portion of the relevant ArbCom decision which is used to justify the ban is the following: "4) Herschelkrustofsky is placed on POV parole for up to and including one year. If he re-inserts any edits which are judged by a majority of those commenting on the relevant talk page in a 24-hour poll to be a violation of the NPOV policy, then he shall be temp-banned for a short time, up to one week." In the talk page in question ([[Talk: American System (economics)]], there are a grand total of two participants: Willmcw and myself. Therefore it is certainly questionable as to whether "a majority of those commenting" took Willmcw's side in the matter. Willmcw apparent sought to obfuscate this matter in this edit: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:American_System_%28economics%...]. Willmcw had the option of posting a Request for Comment in hopes of soliciting some allies, but he did not avail himself of this option.
My request to readers of this list, is that they examine the relevant talk page and other exchanges, to determine whether this ban by Willmcw was not made frivolously and maliciously. -HK
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