geni wrote: The difference is that Sollog was in fact notable, with newspaper articles and so on. In this case, I feel that many of the 'keep' votes were unfortunately emotional reactions to Mr. Kim's hostility and general cluelessness. One huge problem with the article is that virtually nothing in it is actually verifiable by third-party sources. All we have is back and forth flamewars between "bullshido" and Ashida Kim himself. And, let me be blunt here, none of them are going to win a Pulitzer Prize for clear communication skills. I will of course defer to the community in this matter; it is not for me to say what the limits of notability and verifiability are, at least not directly. But I do ask that people set aside any emotional desire to fight Mr. Kim's insolence by forcing him to accept that we have a right to have an article about him. Yes, we have a right. But, we don't care. He and his little soi disant ninja friends can go off and play their miniscule mock macho games elsewhere. --Jimbo