Would you mind backing up that statement with evidence from the history tabs of articles and other pages?

Actually, I was asking enviroknot to back up his statements.

On 5/29/05, Timwi <timwi(a)gmx.net> wrote: > MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:

> > Actually, I was asking enviroknot to back up his statements.

> Then maybe you should have replied to Enviroknot and not to David Gerard.

I was under the impression I was replying to the entire list. Never mind. I'll keep it in mind for next time.

David Gerard (fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au) [050529 22:16]: Oh - and as well as Enviroknot's home IP matching Kain's, "Cranston Snerd" has edited (and signed "Cranston Snerd") from the same two IPs favoured by ElKabong. Thus completing the circle. - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

I sent a response to this to the en-l mailing list yesterday, but it has not appeared. I am attempting to send it again. If I do not see it this time, I will assume that one of you has taken the step of removing me from the list for rightfully bringing my complaints. This would be expected from the power-mad admins who seem to be in control. On to David Gerard's laughable assertions: As for same pages of interest, no, we don't, as my edits will attest: second, even if we did, Wikipedia has policy regarding that, which I have already pointed out. As for the IP, David Gerard insists that Roadrunner keeps users on the same IP "for months": actually, my record time for keeping an IP has been two weeks. Your IP only stays static if your cable modem stays online, and thanks to large-scale construction in my area, we are regularly hit with brownouts and blackouts, not to mention cable service downtimes. If a "Cranston Snerd" has edited Wikipedia, I'd like to see a reference. Since I only edit with one account (named Enviroknot), that is obviously a fake account set up by someone who is reading this list and attempting to discredit me. I also want Mel Etitis, his puppet Yuber, and whichever else of you have been defacing my user page to stop it. I have already warned Etitis and Yuber repeatedly. -Enviroknot _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/ direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Given that you were accusing me of being Sam Spade earlier, I'm just going to have a good laugh at your expense right now. -Enviroknot _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/ direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

From: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell(a)gmail.com>,English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Notice to an Admin Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:25:12 -0400 On 5/30/05, Cranston Snord <enviroknot(a)hotmail.com> wrote: same It doesn't matter how long you keep it, what matters is that you both used the same address. The DHCP assigned addresses are not pooled with the whole world, but rather are pooled with everyone hanging off the same downstream CMTS port, so you'd have to be in the same city and probably the same neighborhood to have any chance at all. So while you claim you are unrelated for that to be true you would have to: 1. Live in the same city, and almost certainly the same neighborhood. Since you claim to only know him via Wikipedia the probability that you also live next to each other is infinitesimal. 2. Then you'd have to be offline at the same time... And manage to get each others IP. Perhaps simultaneously offline is not unlikely, but if a whole area went down there were many people going after addresses a swap would still be quite unlikely. 3. Despite what you claim about assignment, the vast majority of broadband providers have their DHCP servers set to attempt to constantly assign an address, and when they can't they use a least recently used policy to assign from the pool. I have road runner service at my house and was offline for a few hours last night because I kicked out the power cable... and I still have the same IP I've had for months. I hope this explains why no one believes you. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

From: "Cranston Snord" <enviroknot(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Blocked Without Cause by Rogue Admin SlimVirgin Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:04:56 -0500 SlimVirgin has blocked me without cause after Yuber started an edit war and falsely claimed that I broke the three revert rule at the article Dhimmi. Yuber listed the following in his bad-faith complaint, which the rogue admin SlimVirgin did not bother investigating before she blocked me. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhimmi&diff=14439874&oldi… My first Edit. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhimmi&diff=14451571&oldi… Yuber claims this was a "revert", but it was only an EDIT after checking Mel Etitis' concerns on the talk page: minor corrections with a part he moved and edited, and agreement that it needed to be where he had moved it to. Returned Surah 9:29 to article. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhimmi&diff=14457787&oldi… 1st revert of Yuber: he reverted, reverting not only his concerned section but also the reference on Surah 9:29 and the item that Mel Etitis and I agreed should be moved. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhimmi&diff=14458809&oldi… Second revert of Yuber. Warned him not to start revert wars. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhimmi&diff=0&oldid=14459… Third revert. At this point he falsely claimed I was in violation of 3RR. SlimVirgin did not bother to read this, nor did she bother to read my response on the 3RR page, merely blocked me without cause. This is utterly unacceptable behavior from SlimVirgin. -Enviroknot _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

SlimVirgin has blocked me without cause after Yuber started an edit war and falsely claimed that I broke the three revert rule at the article Dhimmi.

From: "Cranston Snord" <enviroknot(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocked Without Cause by Rogue Admin SlimVirgin Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:36:01 -0500 That text was not the whole edit, and part of the text inserted in the original edit had been moved by Mel Etitis. She is lying and misrepresenting my content. 3RR applies to REVERTS, not to edits. The edit I made after Mel Etitis' changes is substantially different from the first edit, and was placed with respect to Mel Etitis' concerns as listed at the talk age: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Dhimmi#Edits_Today The difference between my two edits is READILY apparent simply by looking at the diff page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhimmi&diff=14451571&oldi… SlimVirgin has been persecuting me ever since I arrived here a few days ago, on some personal vendetta or other. She is a Rogue Admin, this is the second time she has lied in order to justify unfairly blocking me, and I am reporting her to this list as such. It is the only recourse I have under Wikipedia policy. I would also like to point out that Yuber appears to have just used a sockpuppet to revert a fourth time: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dhimmi&diff=0&oldid=14461… -Enviroknot _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

I did check Yuber's report, and found that you had reverted four times to a previous version dated 02:53, May 30. The section of text within that version that you subsequently reverted to was: "Dhimmitude is also mentioned ... in Surah 9:29 of the Koran [http://www.submission.org/suras/sura9.html]: "You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly." You reverted to this at 17:12, 20:40, 20:58, and 21:18 on May 30. Yuber got the fourth diff wrong in his report, which is what may be confusing you. Partial, complex reverts count as reverts like any other. The problem with gaming the system, as you are doing, is that this kind of miscalculation is inevitable from time to time. Sarah