From: Phil Sandifer
<sandifer(a)sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Notice to an Admin
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 13:04:53 -0400
So your assertion is that there's a large nexus of users with
identical editing patterns all clustered in the same geographical
area, on the same ISP, and they all happen to be getting each
other's IPs when their cable modems disconnect?
Because I think it's the ice weasels, personally.
-Snowspinner
On May 30, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Cranston Snord wrote:
I sent a response to this to the en-l mailing
list yesterday,
but it has not appeared. I am attempting to send it again.
If I do not see it this time, I will assume that one of you has
taken the step of removing me from the list for rightfully
bringing my complaints. This would be expected from the power-
mad admins who seem to be in control.
On to David Gerard's laughable assertions:
As for same pages of interest, no, we don't, as my edits will
attest: second, even if we did, Wikipedia has policy regarding
that, which I have already pointed out.
As for the IP, David Gerard insists that Roadrunner keeps users
on the same IP "for months": actually, my record time for
keeping an IP has been two weeks. Your IP only stays static if
your cable modem stays online, and thanks to large-scale
construction in my area, we are regularly hit with brownouts and
blackouts, not to mention cable service downtimes.
If a "Cranston Snerd" has edited Wikipedia, I'd like to see a
reference. Since I only edit with one account (named
Enviroknot), that is obviously a fake account set up by someone
who is reading this list and attempting to discredit me.
I also want Mel Etitis, his puppet Yuber, and whichever else of
you have been defacing my user page to stop it. I have already
warned Etitis and Yuber repeatedly.
-Enviroknot
From: David Gerard
<fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Notice to an Admin
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 22:19:27 +1000
David Gerard (fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au) [050529 22:16]:
> ElKabong matches with KaintheScion firstly on writing style
and pages of
> interest, and secondly they both edited [[Talk:George W.
Bush]] in the same
> hour from the same IP. (I sent a list of the edits and their
times to him
> and he emailed back saying I must have made that up.)
KaintheScion and
> Enviroknot have the same pages of interest and edit from the
same IP,
> starting as the IP and then as Enviroknot the moment I
blocked Kain as a
> sockpuppet of ElKabong (who I unblocked - the problem is
abusing a
> sockpuppet to pretend to be two people, not running a second
account per
> se). Which is a DSL theoretically on DHCP, but I know
Roadrunner often
> keeps people on the same IP for ages. Certainly this one.
Oh - and as well as Enviroknot's home IP matching Kain's,
"Cranston Snerd"
has edited (and signed "Cranston Snerd") from the same two IPs
favoured by
ElKabong. Thus completing the circle.
- d.
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