Anthere wrote: If alerted, a database admin can look in the hidden table. -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

I think a straw poll would've being better to see if this should exist. Also, there should be a Request for Oversight Privelages page. On 6/11/06, Anthere <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: -- Joe Anderson [[User:Computerjoe]] on en, fr, de, simple, Meta and Commons.

Joe Anderson wrote: [fixed top-posting, again] No. The idea is that we trust the oversight people enough that if something sensitive needs deleting, they can delete it; we don't trust them enough to see what the other people with the ability have been deleting. The seperation of knowledge is a Good Thing. Anyway, hasn't anyone ever told you that Polls are Evil? <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Polls_are_evil> Sure. How about we make a "request for permission to degauss the servers" page while we're at it? -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

On 6/11/06, Brion Vibber &lt;brion(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote: How so? We have over 900 admins on en.wp. There are 17 users with the oversight bit. Hiding the information in question from _virtually_ everyone except for 1-2% of admins may be sufficient in order to prevent leaks of personal information. Other possible safeguards: - a certain number of oversight members is _notified_ whenever an oversight change has to be made. - a certain number of oversight members have to _approve_ an oversight change before it is made. Erik

On 6/11/06, Anthere &lt;Anthere9(a)yahoo.com&gt; wrote: Nothing to stop arbcom saying that they think person X should have these rights. Wether it should be cleared with the wikipedia comunity (read vetoed have you seen how tough it is to make even buracrat on en.wikipedidia?) and what the devs think (since they are the people who would have to do any cleanup they should have the final say) would be other issues. -- geni