Brion Vibber wrote: How can evidence of misuse be gathered ? Ant

Brion wrote: Say, is that what happened to Mark Gallagher, that he can never hear what people are saying? :-)

geni wrote: okay I found this one : http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_permissions#Oversight_rights_fo… It seems to imply others than arbcom could have the access, but this would be granted by arbcom. I suppose it would be similar ruling than for the checkuser access. ant

On 6/11/06, Anthere <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: The current ArbCom has it, Jimbo has it, Brion has it (as a developer) and Essjay has it (the ArbCom gave it to him). This Signpost article explains it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2006-06-05/Oversi… There is also a log, although it doesn't indicate much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log/oversight -- Stephen Bain stephen.bain(a)gmail.com

I think a straw poll would've being better to see if this should exist. Also, there should be a Request for Oversight Privelages page. On 6/11/06, Anthere <Anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote: -- Joe Anderson [[User:Computerjoe]] on en, fr, de, simple, Meta and Commons.

Joe Anderson wrote: [fixed top-posting, again] No. The idea is that we trust the oversight people enough that if something sensitive needs deleting, they can delete it; we don't trust them enough to see what the other people with the ability have been deleting. The seperation of knowledge is a Good Thing. Anyway, hasn't anyone ever told you that Polls are Evil? <http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Polls_are_evil> Sure. How about we make a "request for permission to degauss the servers" page while we're at it? -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

On 6/11/06, Brion Vibber &lt;brion(a)pobox.com&gt; wrote: How so? We have over 900 admins on en.wp. There are 17 users with the oversight bit. Hiding the information in question from _virtually_ everyone except for 1-2% of admins may be sufficient in order to prevent leaks of personal information. Other possible safeguards: - a certain number of oversight members is _notified_ whenever an oversight change has to be made. - a certain number of oversight members have to _approve_ an oversight change before it is made. Erik