Hello Ed,
I'm posting your message (see below) here on the main list as well, since
you said it should be there...
But I'm not sure I'm entirely happy with the idea that someone should
become a sysop just from having the right number of supporters. I can
easily imagine that a large enough group of sysops could support one
person who is not trusted by the rest of the sysops. Would there be an
"Oppose user for sysop" button as well? Both buttons could update counts
without displaying the names of the people who have voted, so people would
feel free to express their lack of trust in a nominee without anyone
(apart from the developers) finding out and subsequently holding a grudge
against them...
Ah, I'm being very evil today, aren't I? ;)
Oliver
On Tue, 8 Apr 2003, Poor, Edmund W wrote:
Actually, sysops can query the server; they are
limited to "read-only"
queries, however.
What I was suggesting was that some Wikipedians other than the
Developers have the technical ability to:
* grant "sysop rights" to users
* block a signed-in vandal
I don't think a sysop blocking a signed-in vandal should need to see
their IP address. Even I as a developer never bothered to look up the IP
of the half-dozen or so users I've been told to block. I just ran an
UPDATE query in the database.
Similarly, with promoting a contributor to sysop, I think Brion or
Magnus could add a page called "Nominate user for sysop". After enough
sysops nominated a user, they would automatically get sysop rights.
The point is, I don't want to do Gatekeeper Functions any more. Not only
is it time-consuming (up to 10 minutes per operation), but the task of
determining whether a person is a foe or a friend should not be
centralized on 4 or 5 people.
And, yes, mav, I know I should put this on the main list, but I only
subscribe to this one, so I hope anyone who responds will cross post
back to wikien-l. And yes, Brion, I know you made a meta-page, but...
lazily, but non-hierarchically,
Ed Poor
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