Today I blocked a user for making legal threats. See User:Gordy and Vandalism in progress. Since doing that I have received two emails threatening to take me to court
"You claim to have banned me for threatening wiki with legal action. at no time did I do this. I may well have suggested that to personal users, including yourself, and believe me, I am serious in my threat, so serious in fact that I already have draft writ produced in the time that I have waited on you getting back to me."
He goes on to write
"The whole impression that you have created of me is derogatory, defammatory and extremely distressing. Such actions can be remedied legally, and believe me, I you continue to push me on this one, you better have a good lab technicians salary, because I'll take you personally to the cleaners. Your actions can be addressed by way of writ for interdiction/ and or damages, because on at least two counts you have interfered in a matter which I did not believe was any concern of yours."
And in a separate email he writes:
"Having secured wiki's legal owners, I shall then be compelling them by order of court to provide me with the full names and addresses of the individuals who have attacked me on this unbelievable place, whereby I can raise personal actions against those individuals without harming wikipedia."
So it's not just me, he intents to sue others as well. There is actually a lot more but it's mostly just rant.
1) Was I right to block him or did I act too hastily?
2) Should I respond to his email or ignore it?
(3. I've just typed ~~~~ instead of my name does this mean I'm a wikiaddict?)
Theresa
On 10/11/04 10:02 AM, "Delirium" delirium@hackish.org wrote:
KNOTT, T wrote:
- Was I right to block him or did I act too hastily?
I'd say it's justified. People can make whatever legal threats they'd like, but we're under no obligation to provide write access to our website as a forum for them to do so.
Threatening users with legal action is just as bad as threatening Wikipedia. Worse, really.
Unless you think he was just blowing off steam the (unfortunately) correct thing to do was to ban him, especially if you first/simultaneously explained why it's wrong to do so.
This sounds like a case of "wah wah waaaaaaah crying over spilt milk" to me. I've found that petulant users threaten legal action as that is sufficiently "scarier" than just a good ol' "fuck you!"
In the case of Mr. Treason (is this Mr. Treason?)...he keeps threatening court but then he acts like a 15-year-old and goes around calling people queer fucks and faggots and, I believe, "stunods", whatever the hell that last one is. In any case, it just cements how juvenile and grade nine it all is.
I wouldn't give it too much in the whole scheme of things.
-Mike
"KNOTT, T" tknott@qcl.org.uk wrote: Today I blocked a user for making legal threats. See User:Gordy and Vandalism in progress. Since doing that I have received two emails threatening to take me to court
"You claim to have banned me for threatening wiki with legal action. at no time did I do this. I may well have suggested that to personal users, including yourself, and believe me, I am serious in my threat, so serious in fact that I already have draft writ produced in the time that I have waited on you getting back to me."
He goes on to write
"The whole impression that you have created of me is derogatory, defammatory and extremely distressing. Such actions can be remedied legally, and believe me, I you continue to push me on this one, you better have a good lab technicians salary, because I'll take you personally to the cleaners. Your actions can be addressed by way of writ for interdiction/ and or damages, because on at least two counts you have interfered in a matter which I did not believe was any concern of yours."
And in a separate email he writes:
"Having secured wiki's legal owners, I shall then be compelling them by order of court to provide me with the full names and addresses of the individuals who have attacked me on this unbelievable place, whereby I can raise personal actions against those individuals without harming wikipedia."
So it's not just me, he intents to sue others as well. There is actually a lot more but it's mostly just rant.
1) Was I right to block him or did I act too hastily?
2) Should I respond to his email or ignore it?
(3. I've just typed ~~~~ instead of my name does this mean I'm a wikiaddict?)
Theresa
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At 07:07 AM 10/11/2004 -0700, Mike Halterman wrote:
In the case of Mr. Treason (is this Mr. Treason?)...he keeps threatening court but then he acts like a 15-year-old and goes around calling people queer fucks and faggots and, I believe, "stunods", whatever the hell that last one is. In any case, it just cements how juvenile and grade nine it all is.
You denigrate grade nine students.
I like "stunods", I'm going to have to find out what it means now and start using it myself. :)
KNOTT, T a écrit:
Today I blocked a user for making legal threats. See User:Gordy and Vandalism in progress. Since doing that I have received two emails threatening to take me to court
"You claim to have banned me for threatening wiki with legal action. at no time did I do this. I may well have suggested that to personal users, including yourself, and believe me, I am serious in my threat, so serious in fact that I already have draft writ produced in the time that I have waited on you getting back to me."
He goes on to write
"The whole impression that you have created of me is derogatory, defammatory and extremely distressing. Such actions can be remedied legally, and believe me, I you continue to push me on this one, you better have a good lab technicians salary, because I'll take you personally to the cleaners. Your actions can be addressed by way of writ for interdiction/ and or damages, because on at least two counts you have interfered in a matter which I did not believe was any concern of yours."
And in a separate email he writes:
"Having secured wiki's legal owners, I shall then be compelling them by order of court to provide me with the full names and addresses of the individuals who have attacked me on this unbelievable place, whereby I can raise personal actions against those individuals without harming wikipedia."
Duh !
So it's not just me, he intents to sue others as well. There is actually a lot more but it's mostly just rant.
- Was I right to block him or did I act too hastily?
You were just correct.
- Should I respond to his email or ignore it?
I would probably answer and try to cool him off :-)
(3. I've just typed ~~~~ instead of my name does this mean I'm a wikiaddict?)
Theresa
Anthere wrote:
KNOTT, T a écrit:
"You claim to have banned me for threatening wiki with legal action. at no time did I do this. I may well have suggested that to personal users, including yourself, and believe me, I am serious in my threat, so serious in fact that I already have draft writ produced in the time that I have waited on you getting back to me."
"The whole impression that you have created of me is derogatory, defammatory and extremely distressing. Such actions can be remedied legally, and believe me, I you continue to push me on this one, you better have a good lab technicians salary, because I'll take you personally to the cleaners. Your actions can be addressed by way of writ for interdiction/ and or damages, because on at least two counts you have interfered in a matter which I did not believe was any concern of yours."
"Having secured wiki's legal owners, I shall then be compelling them by order of court to provide me with the full names and addresses of the individuals who have attacked me on this unbelievable place, whereby I can raise personal actions against those individuals without harming wikipedia."
So it's not just me, he intents to sue others as well. There is actually a lot more but it's mostly just rant.
- Should I respond to his email or ignore it?
I would probably answer and try to cool him off :-)
He clearly doesn't know what he's talking about. Maybe he has misread one or two lawbooks, or watched too many court shows on TV. I would be inclined to simply tell him to "put up or shut up".
Ec
Well, *I* would ignore it, but IANAL. (If you hadn't blocked him, I would have.)
RickK
"KNOTT, T" tknott@qcl.org.uk wrote: Today I blocked a user for making legal threats. See User:Gordy and Vandalism in progress. Since doing that I have received two emails threatening to take me to court
"You claim to have banned me for threatening wiki with legal action. at no time did I do this. I may well have suggested that to personal users, including yourself, and believe me, I am serious in my threat, so serious in fact that I already have draft writ produced in the time that I have waited on you getting back to me."
He goes on to write
"The whole impression that you have created of me is derogatory, defammatory and extremely distressing. Such actions can be remedied legally, and believe me, I you continue to push me on this one, you better have a good lab technicians salary, because I'll take you personally to the cleaners. Your actions can be addressed by way of writ for interdiction/ and or damages, because on at least two counts you have interfered in a matter which I did not believe was any concern of yours."
And in a separate email he writes:
"Having secured wiki's legal owners, I shall then be compelling them by order of court to provide me with the full names and addresses of the individuals who have attacked me on this unbelievable place, whereby I can raise personal actions against those individuals without harming wikipedia."
So it's not just me, he intents to sue others as well. There is actually a lot more but it's mostly just rant.
1) Was I right to block him or did I act too hastily?
2) Should I respond to his email or ignore it?
(3. I've just typed ~~~~ instead of my name does this mean I'm a wikiaddict?)
Theresa
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