Good work, Ed, but we can't run ahead of the news media without a professional like you on the case. CNN has picked up your point now so it can go in Wikipedia. As a derivative site, we're going to get fooled with the rest of em until we begin to do research. Fred

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004, Poor, Edmund W wrote: Ed, in expressing the fact that you were offended by the expression of one POV in Wikipedia, you have managed to unnecessarily offend me. First, you insisted from this title that this POV is anti-U.S. I could recount a long list of points that would prove that I am undoubtedly a member of mainstream U.S. society by any measure -- but it should be sufficient for me to state that I am a U.S. Citizen by both law & fact to make that point irrefutable. And my opinion is that George W. Bush has managed to wreak considerable damage to my country both materially & in reputation, which has been compounded by his decision to engage in an unnecessary war in Iraq has been incompetant. I believe you have just stated that I am either hostile to my native land or a traitor -- either implication I find offensive. I sincerely hope that you spoke hastily in this election year, & you regret how you express yourself. Second, you could have made your point without opining about the Democratic party or the "liberal media". Your assertion that the media in the U.S. manifests a POV that is politically left of center (which is what I assume you mean by calling it "liberal" -- the alternative would be to assume that you are against the freedom of man, which is what the word "liberal" originally meant) is again a POV. It is my opinion that the so-called liberal media in the U.S. has in recent years been very kind to the Bush administration with the occasional exception. You & I could then engage in a heated disagreement over this point on this mailing list which would distract one & all from your core concern about choosing articles for the Main page based on quality. Lastly, to prove something is slanted by finding a counterclaim on the Internet unfortunately proves nothing. I could prove my point by finding any number of detrimental claims about your faith & church on the Internet with only a few minutes' work. Would that prove what your beliefs about your faith is simply "just another POV", no better or worse than any random assertion? For many of us --including me -- this coming U.S. election has set our tempers on edge. I have tried to be objective in making my contributions about this matter, to the point I have bent over backwards. I only hope, Ed, that you continue to do a better job concerning the goal of Wikipedia than I have done. Geoff