Hi,
as everybody probably knows here, userboxes made vote-stacking und campaigning easy, since one can easily find the "right" people to vote on a subject.
Maybe a technical solution to this problem is possible. What if a bot substitutes all userboxes on the user-pages? Maybe it's even possible to somehow "tag" a template, so it is always substituted? This could be used on warning templates as well.
Of course this wouldn't eliminate vote-stacking at all, since one can still find the "right" people on various Wikiproject pages, but IMHO it's still a step in the right direction.
best regards
A more benign perspective is that userboxes makes it possible to easily identify users who are interested in a subject and give them an opportunity to contribute to decision making. The war over userboxes has been a lot worse than the userboxes.
Fred
On May 4, 2006, at 6:55 AM, Raphael Wegmann wrote:
Hi,
as everybody probably knows here, userboxes made vote-stacking und campaigning easy, since one can easily find the "right" people to vote on a subject.
Maybe a technical solution to this problem is possible. What if a bot substitutes all userboxes on the user-pages? Maybe it's even possible to somehow "tag" a template, so it is always substituted? This could be used on warning templates as well.
Of course this wouldn't eliminate vote-stacking at all, since one can still find the "right" people on various Wikiproject pages, but IMHO it's still a step in the right direction.
best regards
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On 04/05/06, Raphael Wegmann raphael@psi.co.at wrote:
Of course this wouldn't eliminate vote-stacking at all, since one can still find the "right" people on various Wikiproject pages, but IMHO it's still a step in the right direction.
There are still categories. Also, if the userbox itself contains a link back to the template, you're back we're your started. I don't think simple sneaky technical solutions to the userbox problem are going to get anywhere, due to the mousetrap/smarter mouse problem. This is a social problem that absolutely needs a social solution.
Steve
On 5/4/06, Raphael Wegmann raphael@psi.co.at wrote:
Hi,
as everybody probably knows here, userboxes made vote-stacking und campaigning easy, since one can easily find the "right" people to vote on a subject.
This time around the results of previous AFDs were used.
-- geni
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Raphael Wegmann wrote:
Hi,
as everybody probably knows here, userboxes made vote-stacking und campaigning easy, since one can easily find the "right" people to vote on a subject.
Maybe a technical solution to this problem is possible. What if a bot substitutes all userboxes on the user-pages? Maybe it's even possible to somehow "tag" a template, so it is always substituted? This could be used on warning templates as well.
It's honestly really funny that you should mention this today, because if you check the pywikipediabot CVS logs for yesterday, you'll see that I committed a change to the template bot that allows an arbitrarily large number of templates to be substituted or deleted from an arbitrarily large number of pages all in a single command.
Of course this wouldn't eliminate vote-stacking at all, since one can still find the "right" people on various Wikiproject pages, but IMHO it's still a step in the right direction.
- -- Ben McIlwain ("Cyde Weys")
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Ben McIlwain wrote:
Raphael Wegmann wrote:
Hi,
as everybody probably knows here, userboxes made vote-stacking und campaigning easy, since one can easily find the "right" people to vote on a subject.
Maybe a technical solution to this problem is possible. What if a bot substitutes all userboxes on the user-pages? Maybe it's even possible to somehow "tag" a template, so it is always substituted? This could be used on warning templates as well.
It's honestly really funny that you should mention this today, because if you check the pywikipediabot CVS logs for yesterday, you'll see that I committed a change to the template bot that allows an arbitrarily large number of templates to be substituted or deleted from an arbitrarily large number of pages all in a single command.
Though I'd say it's a good idea to run that bot, I agree with JohnTex, that campaigning shouldn't be prohibited per se. Spamming thousands of users, who happen to have a certain userbox on their userpage is a different matter.