I have been blocked from posting to foundation-l. No explanation has been given. It is my understanding that when individuals are blocked from an open list, the list moderator must give some kind of explanation. In an open discussion forum, it is appropriate to give this notification openly.
As far as private explanations go, Austin Hair gave only the terse "see my last post." His post there said nothing about blocking or moderation. When Austin or one of the other invisible hands there can openly explain the reasons for the block, and perhaps also identify who ordered it, then we can get back into dealing with substantive discussion, and not just playing games.
The simple issue with blocking, just as with the usage or reliance on private communications to deal with issues on an open project, is that these modalities run counter to the open philosophy this project was founded on. I have a great deal of respect for most of the people who currently deal with those private modalities, and I feel obligated to correct their continued unprincipled usage.
Regards, -Stevertigo
PS. Apologies if some feel this message belongs somewhere else, but I would say the same thing about that same criticism.
2009/7/26 stevertigo stvrtg@gmail.com:
I have been blocked from posting to foundation-l. No explanation has been given. It is my understanding that when individuals are blocked from an open list, the list moderator must give some kind of explanation. In an open discussion forum, it is appropriate to give this notification openly.
I don't believe that is the case. My experience of being moderated on foundation-l was very similar to yours.
2009/7/26 stevertigo stvrtg@gmail.com:
I have been blocked from posting to foundation-l. No explanation has been given. It is my understanding that when individuals are blocked from an open list, the list moderator must give some kind of explanation. In an open discussion forum, it is appropriate to give this notification openly.
I don't believe that is the case. My experience of being moderated on foundation-l was very similar to yours.
I think, although I was his ally in the cause, creating a dispute resolution mailing list, that it is quite clear what the reason for blocking is -- continuing repeatedly to post on that subject when he was told it was an inappropriate topic for that mailing list.
Fred Bauder
Are you sure you were moderated? Austin only mentioned that the thread was killfiled.
Nathan
Nathannawrich@gmail.com wrote:
Are you sure you were moderated? Austin only mentioned that the thread was killfiled.
Yeah, well. I could not post that ASCII-art nude of myself to the list, so I guess I was blockified, as well.
-Steven
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Fred Bauderfredbaud@fairpoint.net wrote:
I think, although I was his ally in the cause, creating a dispute resolution mailing list, that it is quite clear what the reason for blocking is -- continuing repeatedly to post on that subject when he was told it was an inappropriate topic for that mailing list.
Well, you may be right about that, in a certain way. But nevertheless I did get Cary to finally respond, and, according to his response - mostly decrying the fact that I was making him look a bit too administrative - we now have exactly one more day to rally support for creating a resolution-l. I'm assuming he means PST, cause he's in SF.
-Steven
2009/7/26 stevertigo stvrtg@gmail.com:
Well, you may be right about that, in a certain way. But nevertheless I did get Cary to finally respond, and, according to his response - mostly decrying the fact that I was making him look a bit too administrative - we now have exactly one more day to rally support for creating a resolution-l. I'm assuming he means PST, cause he's in SF.
He's at this moment in NYT for the wiki conference. Don't expect huge responsiveness.
- d.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, David Gerarddgerard@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/26 stevertigo stvrtg@gmail.com:
Well, you may be right about that, in a certain way. But nevertheless I did get Cary to finally respond, and, according to his response -
He's at this moment in NYT for the wiki conference. Don't expect huge responsiveness.
I wasn't.
-Stevertigo
Thomas Daltonthomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/26 stevertigo stvrtg@gmail.com:
I have been blocked from posting to foundation-l. No explanation has been given. It is my understanding that when individuals are blocked from an open list, the list moderator must give some kind of explanation. In an open discussion forum, it is appropriate to give this notification openly.
I don't believe that is the case. My experience of being moderated on foundation-l was very similar to yours.
And we are going to rectify that.
It's still an open project, and the Foundation is really just a meatspace appendage to Wikipedia. No offense.
My point is that DBAD still applies, even on foundation-l, and even if you are Austin Hair.
-Steven