A response to posts of a most conniving and pernicious nature: [[Psychological projection]]!-PV To those who are not very interested in the matters being debated, excuse my verbosity, but sometimes no amount of words are adequate to convey the irritation we can feel at some forms of behaviour, and yet we must vent our outrage with some form of expression. Sometimes a rant is well deserved response to some forms of extreme arrogance, presumption, and forces at work for sheer EVIL. Sheer EVIL is SELFISHLY SUBJECTIVE and EGOTISTICAL EGOISM, ie. MOBY etc, and "ilk".-PV To anyone who is reasonable: I am intent on erasing MUCH but not all of the asinine idiocy that a certain individual has seen fit to post on my talk page, perhaps thinking I might provide a place of safe haven for posting MANY of his extremely warped views. "What "extremely warped views" are you talking about, MOBY, now that I have been again "falsely banned" for this reason: "insane"? It remains in the database record if you are masochistic or deranged enough to want to try to read through all of it. If a person is so paranoid, unsocial, anti-social, pig-headed, obnoxious, rude and just plain stupid that they don't even try to establish and maintain their own user page among decent human beings, or behave in a manner that even attempts to acknowledge or accommodate the rights of others beyond those that are imposed by their own selfish and bigoted interests, I am certainly not going to let them take over my talk page to post all the extremely insulting and spiritually retarded nonsense they are inclined to post that they can't get away with posting elsewhere. [[Psychological projection]]!-PV I'm sure there are probably worse and more obnoxious fools in existence, but thus far I have encountered no one on the Wikipedia, or on the entire web for that matter, who more exhibits the severe signs of the narcissism that this person is so fond of accusing others of exhibiting. Moby and "ilk" see only what they want to "see", and no more and no less. [[Psychological projection]]!-PV Some people seem to have their heads so far up their own fundaments that it is a wonder that they can see anything at all. It doesn't take a "Kangaroo Court" to recognize a pile of manure. Ad hominem personal attacks, after my being banned, how sweet! How typical! How very "Malignantly Narcissistic" of Moby! LOL! :D [[Psychological projection]]!-PV To PV, whose addiction to rants of Pathetic Vitriol against others is truly alarming; to whom anyone who does not agree with him is regarded as a "Marxist"or "Zionist" agent or dupe, or else a "malignant narcissist": "Narcissistic" does not even begin to convey your absurd infatuation with yourself, and your extremely deficient ability to respond to others in civil and sincerely respectful ways. More [[Psychological projection]]! LOL! :D-PV There is a great deal of calm, restrained advice that certain professionals might be able to give you, that I doubt you would seek, but I will indulge in a little venting of my own irritation with you, without indulging in some of the profanity that can come very easily to mind: GROW UP, YOU PALTRY MISERABLE WRETCHED WASTER OF OTHER PEOPLE'S TIME AND LIFE AND ATTENTION. More [[Psychological projection]]! LOL! :D-PV Why don't you actually try reading something by some of the great ethical and mystical philosophers of history instead of trying to imply or claim they would all eagerly embrace the grandiose pettiness and absurd enshrinement of paltry bigotry that you seem to think is a path to eternal grandeur and "Godhood". More [[Psychological projection]]! LOL! :D I have actually done so, and "arete'" or "excellence" or "quality" is the actual path towards "Godhood" as is "Personal Integrity", or "intellectual honesty and moral courage" and of which both you and which your "Pathetic Vitriol" of own "ilk" have clearly and often here demonstrated actually have none-PV I will now quote an article on your "hero", "Dr." Pierce: "All of the homosexuals, racemixers, and hard-case collaborators in the country who are too far gone to be re-educated can be rounded up, packed into 10,000 or so railroad cattle cars, and eventually double-timed into an abandoned coal mine in a few days' time," he wrote in a 1994 newsletter. "All of these people simply don't count, except as a mass of voters. . . . Those who speak against us now should be looked at as dead men, as men marching in lockstep toward their own graves." Like others on the far right, he held Jews, not blacks or gays, to be the main target. He had a special thing for race-mixing women, whom he pictured in The Turner Diaries hanging by the neck from telephone poles with their eyes bugged out. - Village Voice article The wages of such "sin", ie. "race treason", are death.-HOLY BIBLE, and there are actually many many more "genocidal" and "murderous" so-called "Jewish Heros" to be found therein.-PV I suspect the source will imply to PV that I am definitely a "Pinko" of some sorts (but just speaking against his views usually suffices there) but it just happens to be the top hit I got when I entered "Pierce", "Hitler", and "nazi" into a google search. Not so much any "Pinko" as just being "brain-washed" and quite "ignorant" of the WHOLE TRUTHS of REALITY. -PV I will quote a certain individual that Pierce, and you and your "ilk" seem to have a great deal of admiration for, and then a few people who were executed during his brief but bloody reign. Yawn. Get out the world's smallest violin.-PV We have to put a stop to the idea that is a part of everybody's civil rights to say whatever he pleases. - Indeed. Freedom of Speech is for only your own "ilk", right?-PV Adolf Hitler, from a conversation transcribed on Februatry 22, 1942 Luckily for you, most people who disagree with you don't go so far as these "great heroes" of the "National Alliance" in seeking to silence you, though you certainly can sometimes make the idea seem appealing. Right. Anyone can take a text or conversation "out of context" for "lying and slanderous propaganda" purposes or reasons and twist it, as happened to me and by your own "ilk" during arbitration.-PV A few others from Mein Kampf that I do think go a long way to explaining your own behaviour, and apparent ideas: No amount of genius spent on the creation of propaganda will lead to success if a fundamental principle is not forever kept in mind. Propaganda must confine itself to very few points, and repeat them endlessly. Here, as with so many things in this world, persistence is the first and foremost condition of success. Indeed, like the clearly "false" proposition and assertion that "ALL men are created equal", etc. ad nauseum and ad infinitum, and all of the rest of the other "Marxist-PC lying and hypocritical propaganda". -PV The application of force alone, without moral support based on a spiritual concept, can never bring about the destruction of an idea or arrest the propagation of it, unless one is ready and able ruthlessly to exterminate the last upholders of that idea even to a man, and also wipe out any tradition which it may tend to leave behind. Exactly. You are trying to exterminate an "idea", ie. COSMOTHEISM, or "White separatism" by destroying the race first via miscegenation and lying propaganda.-PV Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in a fanatical outlook. "Fanatical" to and for "upholding" the moral and "spiritual truths" that support it, yes.-PV In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie. True. Put in the correct context, Hitler was actually talking about the current Jewish-Marxist propaganda techniques of his time, which hasn't changed much at all. "The official party-line story of the 6 Million Jews exterminated in the Nazi Holocaust" being a very clear example of this "Big lie" technique that has worked.-PV And finally another quote of Hitler's: I have not come into this world to make men better, but to make use of their weaknesses. Do cite this in the correct "context", please, and provide the page number and show where this is to be found?-PV It is appalling that there remains so many weak-souled and weak-minded individuals as can still consider this depraved abomination a hero, and I will now quote from some leaflets of a few who died opposing him , who belonged to the German group known as The White Rose: [6] Actually, the truely "weak-minded" and "weak-souls" rabble are mostly to be found on the Social-Marxist-Left!-PV It is impossible to engage in intellectual discourse with National Socialist Philosophy, for if there were such an entity, one would have to try by means of analysis and discussion either to prove its validity or to combat it. On the contrary, the "irrationality" is not so much on the part of any "National Socialist Philosophy" as it is in the almost complete lack of any actual personal integrity, intellectual honesty, nor moral courage, on the part of its so-called detractors.-PV In actuality, however, we face a totally different situation. At it's very inception this movement depended on the deception and betrayal of one's fellow man; even at that time it was inwardly corrupt and could support itself only by constant lies. That really sounds much more like the lying Mass Media controlled and so-called Democratic "political systems" of today than anything else.-PV In the next passage I will concede that they go a bit too far in their own rhetoric, for I do not accept that every word out of his mouth was a lie� but I do not doubt that most were spoken by a man deranged, and very much inclined to lie to others, and even to himself about the nature of reality, historical circumstances and his own personal fate. Nonsense. It is clear just who or whom are the real "Masters" and "People of the Lie", actually are and have been for thousands of years. Obviously, you do not know factual history very well do you?-PV Every word that comes from Hitler's mouth is a lie. When he says peace, he means war, and when he blasphemously uses the name of the Almighty, he means the power of evil, the fallen angel, Satan. His mouth is the foul-smelling maw of Hell, and his might is at bottom accursed. True, we must conduct a struggle against the National Socialist terrorist state with rational means; but whoever today still doublts the reality, the existence of demonic powers, has failed by a wide margin to understand the metaphysical background of this war. More patent nonsense. It is clear just who or whom are the real "Masters" and "People of the Lie", actually are and have been for thousands of years. Obviously, you do not know factual history very well do you?-PV I am posting this on my talk page, and might post it in a few other spots where I and others have attempted dialog with you, only to have our statements butchered up into convenient little bits that your plainly small mind can attempt to digest and respond to, and do not expect that it will be spared from the same treatment. On the contrary, your elephant of disinformation and lying and hypocritical propaganda is so very huge, that the only way to properly address it is just one small bite at a time.-PV Except that on my talk page I can certainly insist on maintaining it intact. Who cares if it is "intact" or not, what actually matters is if it is "true" or not, which it isn't.-PV Despite the loathsomeness of your attitudes and behaviour, I don't wish any ill fate befalls you, indeed I hope that lucidity can eventually arrive into your mixed up mind, and I truly hope you evolve to the decent human being level sometime soon: I assure you, with great confidence: YOU ARE CERTAINLY A VERY LONG WAY FROM GODHOOD. - Moby 17:09, 6 May 2004 (UTC) LOL! :D That was really a most amusing example of typical [[psychological projection]]. My mind is actually quite clear, thank you, and I do recognize that HUMANITY as a WHOLE has a extremely long way to go to achieve GODHOOD or the OMEGA POINT of TdC. That is ONLY if such "muddled" and "Social Marxist-PC thinking" and any such clearly false delusions and "false identities" of our own people are not finally cleaned-up and once and for all.-PV __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover