From: Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [[WP:OURS]] - A proposal for
admin-user relations
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:22:07 +0100
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:32:46 -0700 (PDT), Guy Chapman
aka JzG wrote:
It is not surprising to me that you -like a few others- are interpreting the proposals around some specific discussions you have in mind.
Hard not to given that you are an indefinitely
blocked POV pusher, and
the proposals appear designed to strengthen the
position of POV
pushers and weaken that of the admins who have to
clean up after them.
Guy (JzG)
This statement requires rephrasing too: I am a relatively new user, blocked indefinitely and unjustly -twice- by the same admin, who takes the issue so personal, behaves unquestionable, and misuse his privileges, and the proposals are for protecting current users and newcomers from the rage of abusive admins who are master of wikilawyering to strengthen their position with a crude temerity as their main contribution. I would like to say that I know quite a few admins who are really nice guys and I am sorry if my statements sound like a generalization.
Don't you think it would be better if you discuss the proposals themselves and show the weakness they may have so that they can be modified and put into a better and so useful from? Is it harder than personal attacks? I am sure it, at least, requires more brain energy.
Best,
Resid
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You are welcome to contest your blocking/request to be unblocked. The wikipedia IRC channel is pretty good if you want to discuss it with several admins in real time.
mboverload
On 6/11/06, Resid Gulerdem resid_gulerdem@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Guy Chapman aka JzG guy.chapman@spamcop.net Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [[WP:OURS]] - A proposal for
admin-user relations
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 18:22:07 +0100
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 11:32:46 -0700 (PDT), Guy Chapman
aka JzG wrote:
It is not surprising to me that you -like a few others- are interpreting the proposals around some specific discussions you have in mind.
Hard not to given that you are an indefinitely
blocked POV pusher, and
the proposals appear designed to strengthen the
position of POV
pushers and weaken that of the admins who have to
clean up after them.
Guy (JzG)
This statement requires rephrasing too: I am a relatively new user, blocked indefinitely and unjustly -twice- by the same admin, who takes the issue so personal, behaves unquestionable, and misuse his privileges, and the proposals are for protecting current users and newcomers from the rage of abusive admins who are master of wikilawyering to strengthen their position with a crude temerity as their main contribution. I would like to say that I know quite a few admins who are really nice guys and I am sorry if my statements sound like a generalization.
Don't you think it would be better if you discuss the proposals themselves and show the weakness they may have so that they can be modified and put into a better and so useful from? Is it harder than personal attacks? I am sure it, at least, requires more brain energy.
Best,
Resid
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