On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:39:58 -0000 (GMT), Tony Sidaway minorityreport@bluebottle.com wrote:
David Gerard said:
Christopher Mahan (chris_mahan@yahoo.com) [050216 14:27]:
--- Arno M redgum46@lycos.com wrote:
It is not an encycopedia's task to do PR for terrorists, especially ones who are as ruthless as these.
Then Auschwitz pics are out of the question, right?
I don't know if anyone's working on code for the inline vs link user option, but it would probably beat the fork that appears to be coming on the issue.
Are forks such a bad idea? It would solve the child-safe problem. The adult Wikipedia could possibly also drop a lot of the trivia that are mostly of interest to children. TV show episode guides, comics, games and the like. Presumably article and history information could still be interchanged.
Duplicated efforts, divergent versions, and a fewer eyeballs: forks are an exceptionally bad idea.
If it's terribly important to have whole articles without requiring users to click to separated images, I suggest template-driven transclusion as used on [[Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse]].
A more intuitive method of transclussion was made by Violet/riga. It involves titling the images based on the article name and using {{PAGENAME}} in the image tag so that alternate versions (ie "Autofellatio (no pictures)") will still show the caption but break the image. I've just added a demonstration of this technique on my userpage ([[User:Cool Hand Luke]]) since it's no longer on Violetriga's.
Using this sort of technique we avoid forking (both versions are generated from the same stock), and we give even technically unsavvy users the choice whether to see the image or not by simply clicking a link. Furthermore, addressing the concern some have over linking images, we don't deny readers the ability to see a whole article with images in context.
I believe giving users an actual choice is much better than lecturing them about how incompetent they are with their web browser or chastising them for looking up a topic in the first place.
I'm one of those that might read autofellatio, but would look it up without the expectation, much less a desire, to see that trashy copyrightvio.