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Depends will people start using arguments with few holes in them. -- geni

Nope because they to suuport your claim that it is the contrast between people's normal condition and combat conditions that cause the problem. False analogy a better one would be to show pregant women aborted fetuses so they will be less tramertised if it happens to them (and even that one doesn't really work) -- geni

Christopher Mahan (chris_mahan(a)yahoo.com) [050216 14:27]: I don't know if anyone's working on code for the inline vs link user option, but it would probably beat the fork that appears to be coming on the issue. - d.

Tony Sidaway wrote: Can you think of any more ways to be insulting to adults whose interests differ from your own?

On 2/16/05 9:39 AM, "Tony Sidaway" <minorityreport(a)bluebottle.com> wrote: Yeah, television, comics, games -- trivia for children. Boo, popular and low culture. Why won't everyone realize that the only things they should be thinking about are Handelian overtures and eating brussels sprouts? I adore Handel and good fresh brussels sprouts, but really. Contemporary and popular art and culture are not trivia for children.

Yes, forks are a bad idea, because the text in the forked articles inevitably diverges. You would end up with different articles on the same subject contradicting each other. Jay.

Yes. If two articles on the same subject contradict each other, then either we haven't done a proper NPOV job in writing them, or one is wrong. Jay.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:39:58 -0000 (GMT), Tony Sidaway <minorityreport(a)bluebottle.com> wrote: Duplicated efforts, divergent versions, and a fewer eyeballs: forks are an exceptionally bad idea. If it's terribly important to have whole articles without requiring users to click to separated images, I suggest template-driven transclusion as used on [[Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse]]. A more intuitive method of transclussion was made by Violet/riga. It involves titling the images based on the article name and using {{PAGENAME}} in the image tag so that alternate versions (ie "Autofellatio (no pictures)") will still show the caption but break the image. I've just added a demonstration of this technique on my userpage ([[User:Cool Hand Luke]]) since it's no longer on Violetriga's. Using this sort of technique we avoid forking (both versions are generated from the same stock), and we give even technically unsavvy users the choice whether to see the image or not by simply clicking a link. Furthermore, addressing the concern some have over linking images, we don't deny readers the ability to see a whole article with images in context. I believe giving users an actual choice is much better than lecturing them about how incompetent they are with their web browser or chastising them for looking up a topic in the first place. I'm one of those that might read autofellatio, but would look it up without the expectation, much less a desire, to see that trashy copyrightvio.