--- Anthere <anthere9(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
I am very aware of this. I know it is currently a
proposition.
But here, you claim that it has been the case from the very beginning,
and this is obviously very untrue.
No it is not - that is a matter of some debate. The proposed rule is aimed at
codifying what was obvious to begin with (that the ArbCom has jurisdiction over
the English Wikipedia mailing list). Whether or not that means a ban on
Wikipedia automatically extends to WikiEN-l is another issue.
On the other hand, we banned people from the list due
to poor behavior
*on* the list.
Yes and Paul Vogel demonstrated very clearly an inability to behave correctly
*on* the list. Thus his hard ban was extended here as well.
I consider the whole idea a very ***bad*** idea, and
wonder what will be
next. Will you also claim that the arbcom have juridiction over irc ?
No - I have argued *specifically* against that and I'm fairly annoyed by your
insinuation that *I* am trying to conduct a power grab.
Sorry, but this is really something I do not second
*at all*.
At the most, I'd say that the english mailing lists moderator should
feel *very confident* to ban from the list a user banned from
en:wikipedia if he begin to be bugging everyone seriously.
Just as an admin should feel *very confident* to block a person from the
English Wikipedia if that user was under a hard ban. I don't see *any*
difference at *all.*
Just in case, I will myself not recognise valid the
juridication of the
arbcom over any mailing list other than the english mailing list. For
example, it should be the role of the moderator of wikipedia-l to ban a
user, and certainly not of the english arbcom.
THIS IS THE ENGLISH MAILING LIST!!! :) And that is the *only* mailing list the
ArbCom could possibly have jurisdiction over - as I stated already.
-- mav
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