On 5/21/06, Oskar Sigvardsson <oskarsigvardsson(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/21/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
"Wheel war" is not an epithet, it is a
description of an activity.
When you undo an admins actions without first discussing it with him,
or getting broad consensus for doing so, you are wheel warring. That,
in fact, is what happened here. And since *everyone* is agreed that
Saladin1970 deserved *at least* a 1 week block, any discussion
regarding the appropriateness of an indefinite block could have taken
place during that week. There was no pressing need to immediately
undo the block and impose a different one. Wheel warring is bad.
He pretty much had consensus here on the list though. There were what,
three of four admins that thought that an indefinite block was way
over the top.
Were there? I didn't see that. I saw quite a few who thought an
indefinite block was quite reasonable.
And he didn't do anything totally unreasonable,
Yes he did, he reverted another admin's actions.
still a one week block, plenty of time for you to explain your reasons
to the rest of us.
No, plenty of time for him to try to get consensus for reducing the
block. I haven't seen that consensus yet.
Can we please stop screaming "Wheel
warrior!" to anyone who does
anything slightly resembling a wheel war, but is in actuality, pretty
No-one screamed, but calling it wheel-warring (which is what it is)
highlights how inappropriate it is. I want people to think 3 and 4
and 5 times before undoing another admin's action. And then think it
over another 5 times. And then get consensus.