On 5/21/06, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/21/06, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
"Wheel war" is not an epithet, it is a description of an activity. When you undo an admins actions without first discussing it with him, or getting broad consensus for doing so, you are wheel warring. That, in fact, is what happened here. And since *everyone* is agreed that Saladin1970 deserved *at least* a 1 week block, any discussion regarding the appropriateness of an indefinite block could have taken place during that week. There was no pressing need to immediately undo the block and impose a different one. Wheel warring is bad.
Jay.
He pretty much had consensus here on the list though. There were what, three of four admins that thought that an indefinite block was way over the top.
Were there? I didn't see that. I saw quite a few who thought an indefinite block was quite reasonable.
And he didn't do anything totally unreasonable,
Yes he did, he reverted another admin's actions.
it's still a one week block, plenty of time for you to explain your reasons to the rest of us.
No, plenty of time for him to try to get consensus for reducing the block. I haven't seen that consensus yet.
Can we please stop screaming "Wheel warrior!" to anyone who does anything slightly resembling a wheel war, but is in actuality, pretty reasonable.
No-one screamed, but calling it wheel-warring (which is what it is) highlights how inappropriate it is. I want people to think 3 and 4 and 5 times before undoing another admin's action. And then think it over another 5 times. And then get consensus.
Jay.