The current policy on blocking provides that users with names that are objectionable to at least "some" users can be blocked after refusal to select another name. I have been treatening to block [[Troll Silent, Troll Deep]] under that policy but am awaiting a decision in JRR Trollkien. See TSTD's talk page. JRR Trollkien was unblocked so he could participate in arbitration. By the way, it is only the name not the user who would be blocked.
Jimbo, do you feel that policy should be changed? Or that it doesn't exist?
Fred
From: Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 20:43:08 -0700 To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] On trolls, usenet and Wikipedia
To my knowledge, admins are not banning people merely for having the name 'troll'. J. R. R. Trollkien, despite being a pain in the neck, has been around for a few weeks now, right?
--Jimbo
Mark Richards wrote:
Well, I'm not advocating for the rights to troll (I don't think vandalism has anything to do with this, since its already covered) - I'm just saying that the current way of dealing with trolling isn't very effective.
Ignoring things that are not vandalism or malicious article edits might be better than providing fertile ground for more trolling. The username issue is the biggest one of concern to me, I think that we're setting ourselves up for a whole new round of trolling over 'if admins can ban users with 'troll' in their name, what other names can I get away with'. By just ignoring these usernames (unless they are attacks on users, genuinely offensive etc) this game would not start.
Mark
--- Rick giantsrick13@yahoo.com wrote:
Unfortunately, there are far too many people on Wikipedia (most of whom do little actual editing of articles) who are more concerned about giving the trolls the right to troll and vandalize, and will attack and try to get banned those of us actually out to make an Encyclopedia instead of a trollopedia.
RickK
Mark Richards marich712000@yahoo.com wrote: Hang on a second, I thought vandals were easy to deal with? Revert, ban if necessary, done. The problem is users who have not vandalised anything, but seek to engage in endlessly convoluted arguments with anyone who will play. Unfortunately, if you play, you have lost already. If the troll vandalises, ban him immediately. If not, don't feed him. Mark
--- Christopher Mahan wrote:
On Usenet or any of many online forums, trolls can be ignored (not fed) and they mostly disappear. On wikipedia, they escalate their vandalism, learning ever-sneakier ways of damaging articles that people have spend countless hours of their
precious
time crafting.
Ignoring a troll on wikipedia is the worst thing
you
could possibly do, since it will bite you in the proverbial bum.
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