The same community that is getting more and more uncivil is the same
community that banned WP:ESP in an uncivil manner!
Fayssal F.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:36:57 +0100
From: Thomas Dalton <thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Civility poll results
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2009/8/12 George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Thomas
Dalton<thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> 2009/8/11 Marc Riddell
<michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net>et>:
>> Thank you, Thomas, you just made my point. This is exactly the type of
focus
and denial I was speaking of.
I'm not denying we have a problem with civility. I got desysopped for
a civility block the community and ArbCom objected to. What I'm
denying is that this problem is going to lead it disaster. There is
absolutely no evidence of that.
I think there is a significant structural risk in the community
steadily getting less welcome to new blood.
I agree, but is there evidence that we are losing a significant number
of new users due to incivility? Numbers of new editors have dropped
recently, but that is to be expected as we pick more and more of the
low hanging fruit. I don't see how a poll can determine whether our
civility problems are having a large impact, only a survey of people
that leave after a short time can do that.
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