A lot of verifiable material is also promotional material because not
everything verifiable is INDEPENDANTLY verifiable. And while one could
indeed create masses of stubs for everything, things like what Carl
described are better in the long run. Instead of creating stubs that cannot
grow people should try for lists and combined articles for stuff that will
never grow into a life-sized article itself.
When people cite that Wikipedia is "the sum of all human knowledge" they
forget this is the aim for Wikimedia. Anything that doesn't fit an
encyclopedia shouldn't be here. Quotes to WikiQuote, dicdefs to Wiktionary
and so on... I'm sure there's more such things that actually don't belong in
Wikipedia.
Mgm
On 9/24/06, Stephen Streater <sbstreater(a)mac.com> wrote:
On 24 Sep 2006, at 09:44, charles.r.matthews(a)ntlworld.com wrote:
"Daniel R. Tobias" wrote
So, should we be just as complete for schools,
albums, songs, TV
shows, and so on? Would that just be duplicating IMDB, etc., or
would it be helping to make Wikipedia a one-stop resource for more
in-
depth info (including links where appropriate to other sites like
IMDB) on everything in each of these fields?
Do the flames of the old inclusionist/deletionist wars really need
fanning?
I worked out my position long ago: pretty much deletionist on the
science side, for anything suspect; pretty much inclusionist in the
humanities; pretty much indifferent as to pop culture where it
really doesn't much matter one way or the other whether we have
articles on soap actors or not.
On schools, they can be hacked back to stubs if they are full of
unverifiable stuff, or, more likely, promotional material.
Some of us are working on a new notability guideline:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOTABILITY
The key to me is that the content is reliable,
which is covered by the first two points under
Rationale:
In order to have a verifiable article, a topic must be notable enough
that it will be described by multiple independent sources.
In order to have a neutral article with minimal errors, a topic must
be notable enough that there will be non-partisan editors interested
in editing it.
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