When putting things into geographic catorgaries, the geography dictates not what looks best. I'm an expert, amongst other things, in looking at maps of of an area I live in.
I haven't seen anything saying "we the mail list admins are blocking you break policy 4.13"
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John Bradley wrote:
Seems the list is run by " ultrablue at gmail.com, dgerard at gmail.com, andrew.lih at gmail.com, fennec at gmail.com, ed.poor at att.net" WHo have no problem manipulating the user base.
It is *very* rare that users are removed from the mailing list, as it (together with IRC and standard email) are the only options of communication for blocked users.
Interestingly I haven't seen any sign of there explanation of for hat matter anything else. Seems a but antisoial to me.
Actually, I believe that they *have* tried to explain there actions - that they were acting in accordance with policy.
Check Violet Rigas mod to the "Grand National", for her own reasons she has decide it is in Liverpool. WHen actually due to little things like boroughs etc it is actualy in Sefton.
Sorry, I'm not an expert on British geography. You could probably raise the issue on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:UK_Wikipedians%27_notice_board]. Anyway, for cosmetic reasons saying it is near Liverpool is a lot clearer than just saying it is in Sefton (or wherever it really is) because *Liverpool is the more notable location*. A city will always outdo a borough - if it's such a problem, just add "in the [[metropolitan_borough|borough]] of [[Sefton]]" and everyone will be happy.
You can check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incid entArchive1#3RR_at_the_troubled_Clitoris_article
I did. To be as polite as possible, I think you should read [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_personal_attacks] again. If you would like a prompt reply from a user, leave a comment on their Talk page - that's what they're there for! Next time they login, they will see "You have new messages" and investigate.
The 3RR is a highly contentious issue - I don't know why - but if you feel hard done by, *politely* explain what you were doing, and take 24 hours (or however long the block is) off to think about it. Ultimately, edit warring just makes people angry and does nothing to improve Wikipedia. It harms its reputation because people will refer to it as "that thing on the internet where everyone yells at each other about what the facts are".
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Her is a typical rant fro John Bradley (john@ontobus.co.uk) [050423 00:50]:
I think it is everyone who cares about Wikipedia as an encyclopedia rather than a social club stepped forward and be counted.
Personal attacks toward other editors are not tolerated because they drive other volunteers away from editing. This is bad for Wikipedia.
Really. I pretty much don't care how much of an expert a given editor is - if they're acting like an arsehole and making editing an unpleasant experience for others, we don't need them. There are PLENTY of really quite high-grade experts editing Wikipedia who don't in fact act like arseholes.
(This does, however, require a more than usual tolerance for and patience with stupid fellow volunteers amongst the experts in question, and occasional annoying having to prove things from first principles on talk pages when the well-meaning idjit doesn't get it. This is quite a bit less than ideal, and we need ways to deal with it, but it still isn't an excuse for personal attacks.)
Note that Irate, the user in question, has not shown even this level of justification for his streams of personal attacks.
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I don't think this was an attack - "if they are acting *like* an a-h" is quite different to saying "you f-ing f-t, w-t-f are you f-ing the article for? Stupid moron". It's like the distinction between [[newbie]] and [[n00b]] - fine but discernable.
BTW, what *are* you an expert in? If you don't like what someone has said, talk to them about it. Both of you might learn something, and then we get a better article out of it. Name-calling won't get anyone anywhere - it will get you less than nowhere, because people will continue to associate you with your actions long after you have taken them. It takes time to earn trust.
As for my address. I thnk you should stop worrying less.
OK then.
As for one of the others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:82.35.37.118&action=histo...
Did you list them at [[WP:VIP]]?
Anyway, take a break and when you come back, don't do *anything* that could be seen as abusive, controversial, policy breaking etc. Many users have a "blacklist" of articles they won't touch because they _know_ that they will only get into heated, non-productive edit wars.
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