On 2/1/07, Dan Collins <en.wp.st47(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 2/1/07, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like this needs to be reviewed. A conclusion should be made based
> upon
> WP policy rather than the US constitution.
>
> Mgm
It's actually par for the course in MedCab cases. The MedCab provides for
informal mediation and a forum for discussion. That's a useful role, but
one that seems to be routinely ignored. The role of a mediator isn't to
judge the situation, but rather, to get people to talk and listen to
one-another. So any "conclusion" beyond that made by the participants in
inappropriate, regardless of whether it was based on the US constitution or
Wikipedia policy. The role of mediation is not to draw conclusions. That
an informal body, with no selection process, no official standing, and no
oversight, should make "rulings" is mind-boggling. Especially a body that
seems, half the time, to be staffed by rank newbies who know little about
policy.
On 1/31/07, Parker Peters <parkerpeters1002(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I see a problem case for our "Mediation Cabal" here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-12-08_Beiā¦
Mediator's result:
"Pursuant to the First Amendment, the photos are allowed.
Wiki<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Wikizach>
e <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:EA>Zach|
talk<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wikizach>19:20;19:20, 26 January
2007 (UTC)"
There are two main problems with this:
#1 - the dispute was never about the "First Amendment", but about
whether
> the photos and quotations in question were violations of NPOV
standards
(and
for that matter, whether they were genuine or not). This is not looked
at
> at
> all by the mediator's result, nor commented on anywhere by the
mediator.
>
> #2 - As referenced by another thread on this mailing list, Wikipedia
is
> not
> bound by the US Constitution nor the First Amendment thereof.
Therefore,
the
"result" of the Mediation has no basis in policy.
I find it to be a bad mediation.
Parker
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I agree with you, though I haven't reviewed the case yet.
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