On 11/30/07, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On Nov 30, 2007 11:51 AM, Kwan Ting Chan ktc@ktchan.info wrote:
On Fri, 2007-11-30 at 16:45 +0000, Guy Chapman aka JzG wrote:
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 16:30:56 +0000, Kwan Ting Chan ktc@ktchan.info wrote:
As a result Durova escapes any meaningful sanction for her actions.
What, apart from losing all her credibility,
Then trash Giano's credibility all you like.
her sysop bit and her shot at ArbCom you mean?
And I quote the original passage: "An admin bit is not some shield that can be used to deflect a blow, something we can drop in lieu of a sanction. Should we issue Giano with an admin bit so he can be forced to give it up as punishment?"
She won't now have a shot at ArbCom. Big wow. Now compare to the various proposed remedies of banning for 90 days, restricted editing in Wikipedia namespace etc. *point to the subject line of "balance of sanction*.
KTC
What additional sanctions do you think would be appropriate for an erroneous block that was undone in 72 minutes?
There were additional errors in judgment, not just an erroneous block. First off is the quality of evidence used to make the block. Then Durova referred questions to Arbcom, but failed to send them the information on which her decision was based. She suggested that the evidence was private and revealed secret techniques for sockpuppet identification, neither of which were correct. And she implied that foundation representatives, arbcom members, and checkusers were all well aware of the situation, which was only partially true; some may have been aware and some not, but only in their capacity as established editors who were on a mailing list, rather than in their official capacities. This was a serious error in judgment on Durova's part, and it seems to me she has recognized this herself.
It's very unclear to me why you, as Durova's friend, keep insisting on having her entire litany of errors repeated. Don't you think it's a bit cruel to her to keep insisting on hearing it over and over again? For heaven's sake, she has recognized her errors and done the right thing for the community. Please leave her with a bit of dignity.
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