User:Andplus posted an excellent analysis of the disproportionate level of proposed remedies in this whole affair on [[Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/Durova and Jehochman/Proposed decision]] which I shall quote for ya all to consider. "The attack on !! in the email was a pretty through job, and one that would seem to breach many of the policies and guidelines that Giano is accused of breaching. In my opinion, it is worse than anything Giano did, as while I can see many of his comments resulting from a rush to comment before the discussion was sidelined, the mail was obviously complied at leisure (and distributed to a wider audience with at least two weeks to be considered and revised before it was made public). Unfortunately the character assassination of !! occurred off-site, so the Committee has no authority to issue sanctions against its author. Giano's offence was to post his comments on-site. Had he gone to another site, he could have viciously attacked all and sundry, and the community could have shaken its collective head in disgust and gone back to editing, safe in the knowledge that such horrible behaviour was outside the Committee's jurisdiction. Unfortunately, the case came to Arbitration in this unequal state: Giano's actions could be dealt with because he kept his argument "in-house", Durova's could not because she took advantage of off-site communication. As a result Durova escapes any meaningful sanction for her actions. The argument from her supporters seems to be that she was punished in having to resign her admin bit and being made to look foolish. An admin bit is not some shield that can be used to deflect a blow, something we can drop in lieu of a sanction. Should we issue Giano with an admin bit so he can be forced to give it up as punishment? As for being made to look foolish, I dare say that has happened to all of us at some point, but it is of our own making. That somebody points out how foolish we have been is perhaps unkind, but had we not been foolish they would not have had the opportunity. Aside from that, I would hope that the Committee is in the business of remedies rather than punishments. For Giano, on the other hand, the Committee has almost unlimited scope to apply remedies. He has no admin bit to strip, he has no "off-site" justification for his actions, his actions clearly fall under the remit of the Committee. He can be banned, blocked, restricted and probably more. This does not mean it is right to apply such sanctions in the face of such an obvious deficiency the Committee's authority. Balance is important here, as is the message sent to the community by the decision (see my questions to Mackensen for the message I perceive as being sent from the proposed decision). I do not wish Durova punished: a remedy should not be a punishment. Instead, I would urge the Arbitrators to vote against any remedy for Giano that applies a more rigorous sanction to him than those applied to Durova, and I applaud those who have already done so. As a side note, I found this while looking at Wikipedia:Former administrators, which seems to point to action being possible even when posting takes place off-site [18]. On the Former administrators page it says the action was carried out per an ArbCom decision. Perhaps one of the Arbitrators could clarify their jurisdiction. Andplus (talk) 11:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)" -- Experience is a good school but the fees are high. - Heinrich Heine