On 8/2/07, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/1/07, John Lee johnleemk@gmail.com wrote:
I'm really losing my patience with how you seem to misunderstand
everything
we're saying, and it's getting harder to assume you're making good faith misinterpretations, but I will try in spite of myself.
If you recall, we were talking about how people on-wiki were trying to completely eradicate *questions* about the allegations - questions from people acting in good faith. Believe it or not, not everyone on
Wikipedia
knows who SV is or her storied past of abuse by WR, Brandt, et al, and
there
is no reason to assume everyone asking about this is a bad faith shit-stirrer trying to rile us/her up. That people were asking David
Gerard
to oversight things like this, after removing the ostensibly offending questions probably made in good faith, simply makes us look bad.
Johnleemk
Here's another forwarded response from ArmedBlowfish:
I am sure you mean well, but falling to the Victim-Blaming fallacy very psychologically harmful to SlimVirgin and other victims nonetheless... hence the terms 'the second rape' and 'the second assault'... well, the psychology of rape is the psychology of abuse.
See the thread entitled 'The Second Rape: Victim-Blaming (was Re: Self-sensorship, how far should it go?)' for a more detailed explanation.
I've seen it. I fail to see how I am blaming the victim; as far as I can tell she was not directly responsible for the attempted salting of apparently innocent questions/statements made by misguided by otherwise good-faith editors, and I have never blamed her for such.
Johnleemk