On 8/1/07, John Lee <johnleemk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm really losing my patience with how you
seem to misunderstand
everything
we're saying, and it's getting harder to
assume you're making good faith
misinterpretations, but I will try in spite of myself.
If you recall, we were talking about how people on-wiki were trying to
completely eradicate *questions* about the allegations - questions from
people acting in good faith. Believe it or not, not everyone on
Wikipedia
knows who SV is or her storied past of abuse by
WR, Brandt, et al, and
there
is no reason to assume everyone asking about this
is a bad faith
shit-stirrer trying to rile us/her up. That people were asking David
Gerard
to oversight things like this, after removing the
ostensibly offending
questions probably made in good faith, simply makes us look bad.
Johnleemk
Here's another forwarded response from ArmedBlowfish:
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I am sure you mean well, but falling to the Victim-Blaming fallacy
very psychologically harmful to SlimVirgin and other victims
nonetheless... hence the terms 'the second rape' and 'the second
assault'... well, the psychology of rape is the psychology of abuse.
See the thread entitled 'The Second Rape: Victim-Blaming (was Re:
Self-sensorship, how far should it go?)' for a more detailed
explanation.
I've seen it. I fail to see how I am blaming the victim; as far as I can
tell she was not directly responsible for the attempted salting of
apparently innocent questions/statements made by misguided by otherwise
good-faith editors, and I have never blamed her for such.
Johnleemk