(Again, not making policy here, just engaging as
an equal in a
hopefully constructive discussion...)
Steve Summit wrote:
At the risk of prolonging a discussion that's
already rather
egregiously long in the tooth, what do people think about those? One
of the larger
objections to BADSITES and its resurrection
in WP:NPA#EL concerned the prohibition of links
to attack sites even
in talk and project spaces, even as part of sober discussion
of the
alleged personal attacks. Is there still any sentiment to keep
trying to ban those kinds of links?
Yes, but we have to be careful and thoughtful.
One thing I have seen recently is violations of No Personal Attacks
through the posting of links to abusive websites. I will make a
hypothetical example.
A problematic editor who has a history of trouble with others and the
Arbcom responds to something perfectly appropriate said by a well
known Wikipedia admin, in the following fashion.
"Anyone who wants to understand what is going on here, should simply
read [
http://www.someattacksite.com/Admin_name.html this link]."
I think statements like that are an "incorporation by reference" of
the material contained on the attack site, and should be removed
immediately (and probably the problematic editor blocked at that
point).
--Jimbo
Jimbo
That seems like a clear violation of WP:NPA without use of badsites at
all. I don't think anyone seriously disputes this. I will say "Even
without anything resembling badsites, this is actionable under
WP:NPA". Even if we, as a community, reject WP:BADSITES to the last
editor, this is still unacceptable per WP:NPA. Doesn't matter.
Totally off topic.
Cheers
WilyD
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