Oh? I remain to be convinced. Why, then, did Durova think it quite alright to post her
evidence to !! to this list? Why do we have good people, like Krimpet, being attacked on
this mailing list? Why do we have two of our finest, Thatcher131 and Alison (now a CU),
signing up to this list and then rapidly unsubscribing when they find it wasn't, after
all, that it was cooked up to be. In fact, Alison memorably described it as chock-full of
"bitterness, anger and wikipolitics". Oh dear.
And why, then, did we think it quite alright to set up a bastard child to wpcyberstalking,
wpinvestigations-1? This little list I know quite a lot about - I've seen some truly
bizarre and quite terrifying conversations, including some posts that make you wonder how
on earth something like the block of !! didn't happen a lot earlier. Sockpuppet
paranoia, investigation obsession, weird suggestions for the CUs galore - it's got the
lot, baby. In fact, Thatcher summed this wretched list up very nicely: "...unhelpful
and possible dangerous development. Blocks and such should be
discussed and documented on Wiki whenever possible. In extraordinary
circumstances evidence may need to be kept private, but those cases
should be dealt with by Arbcom, who were elected for that purpose,
rather than a group of self-selected investigators who may lack proper
perspective."
Wikipedia is not a MMORG for SlimVirgin to play webmaster to.
CM
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 09:51:27 -0800
From: jwales(a)wikia.com
To: wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Missed Opportunities to have avoided the Durova Case
Matthew Brown wrote:
On Nov 26, 2007 9:55 PM, Steve Summit
<scs(a)eskimo.com> wrote:
Yow. I, for one, didn't know that (though I
can't say I'm surprised).
I'd advise you to be a little more cautious about taking everything
Alec says here at face value. He's presenting it from the
maximum-drama, maximum-assumption-of-bad-faith point of view, in my
opinion.
I do not want to criticize Alec or his motives. But having been a
participant on the mailing list in question from day one, I can say with
absolute confidence that it is not and was not in any way nefarious, and
that the representations being made about it here and on-wiki are just
silly.
A good group of users got together independently to talk about the very
real problem of cyberstalking of Wikipedia admins. This is something
that all of us should be concerned about. The problem is difficult and
complex, and it is not made easier by "free speechers" who like to make
the biggest wikidrama out of everything that they can.
--Jimbo
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