Carcharoth <carcharothwp(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
The danger there...
...is in starting out
statements with phrases like "the danger there."
...has always been...
There is "a
danger" in saying a thing "has always been." For example,
there is the danger that it is not true.
...that examination of civility gets elevated over
examination of
POV pushing. The POV pushing should always come first and
be examined first.
If, Carcharoth, you are saying here that we need some kind of
conceptual separation between issues and behavioral disputes --
between behaviourist and editorialist approaches -- I strongly agree
with your agreement to my idea.
If you don't do that [treat POV pushing above
incivility], the
danger is that people use claims of civil POV-pushing to
bludgeon opponents in content disputes...
Using myself as an example, would people here appreciate it more if I
was less "civil" when I "bludgeon" someone? In my experience, people
will just jump on the Civility violation anyway - the only difference
being their emphasis on mine and not theirs.
-Stevertigo