On 1/16/07, Rocky7 Peter freudianjungianp@hotmail.com wrote:
Frankly speaking, "Main Page" sounds very foolish.
Apparently "Today's Top Page" or "Today's Page" is better than "Main Page".
"Main Page" is, therefore, very harmful to the reliability of all admins (except Mgm and someone) and all Wikimedia Projects.
So, I think, "Change it, however difficult, as soon as you can".
Sincerly
Peter Rocky7
Ummm... what?! I think you're entirely missing the point; "reliability of all admins"? I have no idea how moving it to "Today's Page" will affect my reliability.
The entire idea of moving the page is absurd.
Glen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Glen_S
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 13:53:51 -0500, Pilotguy pilotguy.wikipedia@gmail.com
wrote:
Indeed. Keep it the way it is now. There's no harm being done anyway.
On 1/15/07, Gary Kirk gary.kirk@gmail.com wrote:
Anyway, we can always create these articles as [[Main Page (book)]], [[Main Page (film)]] and so on. It really is a non-issue - there's no definite reason to move our Main Page.
Jm2p...
On 1/15/07, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
It might be just me, but I don't think a movie or book titled "Main
Page"
would actually get sold to a editor or studio representative. Titles
are
key
to drawing in an audience, and when someone came to me with that as
a
title,
I'd ask them to change it.
Mgm
On 1/14/07, PeruvianLlama peruvianllama@gmail.com wrote:
Luna wrote:
Right. But since we're obviously going to need such a redirect,
what
do
we
gain from moving Main Page? It's a lot of work for...?
The idea would be that such a redirect would be temporary. The
problem
of having Main_Page in the namespace wouldn't be solved overnight,
or
even in a matter of days. But at least it would be solved a year
(or 6
months, or whatever) down the road. That's a long time, but like I
said,
I haven't seen anyone claiming that this is really any kind of an immediate worry. It's just a good idea for the sake of long-term consistency.
If we wait until the movie/book/etc. called "Main Page" is made
and
suddenly wants to be in that article page, then we no longer have
the
luxury of doing things at a reasonable pace. Then it really will
be a
big issue to update all of our internal links, and to hope that
external
links update quickly enough. If we're proactive about this, we
might
be
saving ourselves a headache. At worst, like I said, we're at least
being
consistent.
MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
And it still doesn't open up the page for any potential films,
books
or
articles on anything else, because leaving a redirect is what we
need to
not
kill incoming links from outside of Wikipedia. Mgm
Not immediately no, but it opens up the possibility of doing so in
the
future. After a year we can drop the redirect, since most/all of
the
external links will have updated. Those that haven't, well, a
broken
link or three isn't going to bring either Wikipedia or the
internet at
large to its knees. The reason I posted this idea was because the
main
three objections to moving appeared to be:
- It will be too big a strain on the servers to move such a big
page
- It will be too much of a hassle to update internal links
- It will be too much of a hassle to update external links
I think that if it came to it, we could enlist the help of devs or
other
technical wizardry to eliminate the hurdles of objection #1.
Objection
#2 has already been rebutted. I was taking aim at objection #3.
There isn't any wildly important reason to move Main_Page
somewhere
else, and I say again, it certainly isn't a terribly
time-sensitive
issue. But on the other hand, there don't seem to be any wildly important reasons to _not_ move Main_Page, other than things being
too
much of a hassle.
Cheers,
- PeruvianLlama
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