This distinction between Clique and Cabal is an important one. While I suppose one could imagine a "developers clique", or a "old hands clique" which might be synonymous w some peoples conception of a cabal, I really don't see those as being a problem on the wiki. Rather the problem I see are users and admins which act as one, creating partisan voting blocks on areas of mutual interest, and coordinating efforts to shout down criticism and attempts to NPOV their POV.
Jack (Sam Spade)
On 9/22/05, Geoff Burling geoff@agora.rdrop.com wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, steve v wrote:
The use of clique should not be considered a pejorative, and may refer just as much to a "web of trust" as to a "cabal." I dont make any judgements, but rather chose a term which is neutral, and which critics as well as core members of the "cabal" (you and I ;)) may find agreeable.
TINC, true, but WIND (democracy) is also true. Whether one prefers the term "core" or "cabal" is a matter of where one is on the map.
You're right about that: Wikipedia does have a number of cliques in the neutral sense. I posted in haste & confused "clique" & "cabal".
I apologize for my comments to you, Steve, & have restored the chunk of respect I deducted -- for whatever that is worth.
Geoff
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