On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 4:16 AM, Oldak Quill <oldakquill(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2008/7/20 geni <geniice(a)gmail.com>om>:
2008/7/20 Oldak Quill
<oldakquill(a)gmail.com>om>:
Although there are plenty of people turned-off
and turned-away by the
deletion of factually correct, verifiable and referenced articles.
There is nothing quite as disheartnening as working on an article,
only for a faceless gang of self-appointed AfDers to come along and
decide that this article falls below an arbitrary threshold for
inclusion in Wikipedia. My Wikipedia experience has been significantly
soured by such arbitrary deletions and my efforts toward Wikipedia
have fallen off recently as a result.
Getting a properly reffed article deleted is quite a trick.
If I knew that my work could survive at least in
some form (a
publicly-viewable deletion namespace with libel and slander removed,
e.g.), perhaps I would allow myself to get more excited about working
on Wikipedia again.
If you wrote it yourself there are no shortage of free webhosts on
which it can survive.
The point isn't about a particular article ("my work" was a wrong
expression to use here): it is to do with the efforts I put into
editing Wikipedia and whether it is worth it. I've had problems with
referenced, factually-accurate and verifiable articles that I have
worked on being deleted due to questions to notability. It is also
disheartening to go to AfD and see articles which are referenced,
factually-accurate and verifiable being deleted due to notability.
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Oldak Quill (oldakquill(a)gmail.com)
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I can write a referenced, factually-accurate and verifiable (public
records) article about my car or my dog, or for that matter myself.
For quality control and undue weight reasons, we still shouldn't
-have- those articles. That's why we ask "Has someone who is reliable
on this subject and doesn't have any interest in promoting it written
a significant amount about it?" It's really a reasonable question, and
keeps a lot of garbage out. However, as always, one man's trash is
another man's treasure, and if someone else would like to start up a
project to put it -elsewhere-, be it fancruft on a Wikia or
all-imaginable-kinds-of-cruft on some new project, that's just fine.
It's just not allowed -on Wikipedia-, the Web's a big place, and
(unless it's a copyvio, libel, or something else illegal), there's
likely a place where it does fit in.
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Freedom is the right to say that 2+2=4. From this all else follows.