I think any joke about a cabal is a disaster, and an example of trying to
inappropriate defuse what is a serious concern. This is all the more true
when the people involved are important enough to be part of a real cabal if
there were one. Come to think of it, I haven't seen any low-status editors
making jokes about cabals. i wonder why.
On Jan 30, 2008 3:13 PM, Steven Walling <steven.walling(a)gmail.com> wrote:
So, as far as you're concerned I can setup some
joke page entirely
unrelated to Wikipedia on Wikipedia. Redirect a domain name to it. Use
CSS hacks to overwrite the user interface. .. and keep it protected to
prevent unapproved people from modifying my website. Did I get that
right?
First off, I didn't know it was protected. That is inappropriate, and
makes
no sense.
But the Bathrobe Cabal isn't just a joke page. It's a humorous page that
is
a community building tool for admins and a resource for non-admins to find
help from a friendly and knowledgeable set of sysops, which is far useful
than a lot of the off-topic userpage stuff that gets let alone. I do not
understand that logic of attacking an obviously useful page just because
someone has bought and redirected an outside domain to it. It's more than
just "no harm done". There is a palpable benefit to the page.
On Jan 30, 2008 11:36 AM, Bryan Derksen <bryan.derksen(a)shaw.ca> wrote:
Peter Ansell wrote:
If they leave because a userspace page, which was
not promoting
collaboration on wikipedia articles, was deleted then they were *not
valuable* to the encyclopedia.
That seems like an extremely petty criterion of "value." Have you
checked the contributions lists of the Bathrobe Cabal members? If all
they do is work on the Bathrobe Cabal page, sure, no big loss. But
considering they have to run the gauntlet of RfA to join the Bathrobe
Cabal that seems unlikely. Almost by definition they've had to
contribute a lot of valuable work to Wikipedia to get there.
It could however be affected if others figure out
that admins aren't
consistent and chuck a fuss because their Userspace pages were deleted
for the same reason that page was kept in a shortened discussion.
We could leave all harmless user subpages like this one alone,
admin-created or not. That would be a consistent approach.
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