Sorry, I don't understand - why would vanity pages be eligible for
deletion if the information therein was 100% verifiable and factual?
Delirium said that this isn't a strawman because *we get 100% verifiable
articles such as vanity pages which are deleted*. You argue in favour of
their deletion, because they are vanity pages - what constitutes a
vanity page? A page written by someone seeking glorification? But, why,
the information's verifiable! Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be a
compendium of human knowledge? I honestly don't understand your
paradoxical - dare I say, hypocritical - stance on this.
John Lee
([[User:Johnleemk]])
Mark Richards wrote:
It's a straw man because you are taking the case
in
dispute (schools) and claiming that if we keep
schools, we will have to keep an article on each
school band member.
There are existing rules to deal with vanity articles,
and to the extent that we have a problem with them,
they have been deleted as vanity.
Let's not confuse the issues of schools with some
hypothetical deluge of articles about cheerleaders or
dead cats.
If I have presented my case as an extreme one, then I
have misrepresented my aims. I certainly do not
support an article on each high school band member. I
doubt that you could really write a verifiable and
factual article on them that was not a vanity page
anyway.
It's not that these people are not notable, they
certianly are to some people, it is the fact that
these would be vanity articles, I am not proposing to
remove this criteria for deletion.
Mark
--- Delirium <delirium(a)hackish.org> wrote:
>Mark Richards wrote:
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>>Exactly - this is a straw man.
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>I don't see how it is a straw man at all. You said
>explicitly that
>there are no criteria besides verifiability that are
>acceptable. The
>entire contents of my local newspaper are
>verifiable, as they keep
>archives. Therefore, *anything* in my encyclopedia
>is a valid Wikipedia
>article, and if on a whim I decide to add anything
>from it, no matter
>how non-notable, you have no basis to delete it,
>because you reject
>notability as a criterion.
>
>And there are many articles on Wikipedia like this
>that get deleted.
>There have been articles about college students who
>made Dean's List,
>which is verifiable from the University's website;
>articles about
>members of high school marching bands, which are
>verifiable from
>published lists of marching band members; etc.
>These all get deleted
>anyway, due to non-notability.
>
>-Mark
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