On 08/08/07, ElinorD <elinordf(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 8/8/07, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On 08/08/2007, Gwern Branwen <gwern0(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Oversight is deletion for admins; deletion where
they aren't allowed to
see what was deleted. The only 'courtesy
oversights' I can think of is the
usual OTRS and "personal information" stuff. (Well, that and embarrassing
stuff like the original Seigenthaler article. That was deleted and moved and
oversighted so many times I'm not sure it can be recovered even with
oversight.)
Oversight is for material which would be personally dangerous or
legally questionable to reveal. The key heuristic is: "should this
material not even be available to admins?" We tend to err on the side
of oversighting rather than not, fwiw.
For *almost everything* that shouldn't be visible to the general
public, an ordinary deletion is quite sufficient - even if we had ten
thousand admins, that's a lot less than making it accessible to
billions.
- d.
But if a particular edit made on 17 June shouldn't be available to the
general public, and an admin just deletes it and partially restores the
page, but the edit isn't oversighted, and then on 19 July, another
inappropriate edit is made, the admin who deletes and partially restores the
page the second time is extremely likely to accidentally restore the edit
from 17 June. Is that not the case? ~~~~
If we assume the admin is sufficiently incompetent not to have paid
due care and attention, yes. I've made this sort of deletion before -
often where the previous deleting admin was me, which helped - and
whilst it needs two or three windows open in tabs and a lot of careful
thought, it's certainly solvable as long as you're alert and not
treating delete/undelete as a routine.
We probably need a *better* method for handling multiple
deletion/undeletions, which would be better than more broad use of
oversight. I believe one is in the pipeline which allows you to
selectively delete revisions from the getgo, rather than have to
delete the whole page and restore, which ought to make this situation
moot.
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- Andrew Gray
andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk