Just thought I'd say I agree with Nathan on this. It is a nice sentiment,
but not feasible.
On Dec 20, 2007 7:08 PM, Nathan Awrich <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I respect the sentiment, but I don't think
Wikipedia needs to get into
the habit of providing emotional support systematically to editors.
There are a lot of people out there with a lot of problems. Folks need
to take responsibility for their own wellbeing and their own actions.
Flameouts are a fact of life and always have been - not just on the
Internets, either. I think the last thing we need is a coordinated
Wikiproject to provide emotional support to troubled editors, or a set
of templates like "You seem stressed out, do you need a temporary
Wikibreak?" that are nicely designed and completely standardized and
impersonal.
On Dec 20, 2007 6:34 PM, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:
on
12/19/07 11:06 PM, Todd Allen at toddmallen(a)gmail.com wrote:
> For most admins, though, a marked change in the way they react to
people
> (especially toward the negative) should be a
good reason for someone
to
> gently suggest they take a voluntary and
temporary break from the
tools
> before they're given an involuntary and
permanent one. Ideally, this
> would be someone the person knows and trusts, and that the person
being
> given the advice would be hesitant to simply
brush off as a troll or a
> fool. As to those trusted people, the best thing you can do for those
> you trust and care for is to be honest with them, even when that
honesty
might
sting a little.
Todd,
To me "civility" in a community of persons includes resources being
available for the individual to reach out to for assistance when they
need
it. Within WP we have a lot of technical
resources, with experts
available,
when a Community Member needs this kind of help
(and, believe me, I've
been
one of them many times :-). But are there any
resources available to
someone
who is needing some emotional support?
Many, many persons bring many, many pieces of emotional baggage to the
Project. And we certainly can't do anything about that. But, when the
emotional dilemma a person finds themselves in is a direct result of
some
activity in the Project, could we not provide
some first step with an
ear
where the advice might, in fact, come down to the
person needing a
break?
This could be something as simple as a list of
persons who are willing
to
make themselves available to listen and offer
some input. I find this
process a lot more civil than just letting the person flame out on their
own.
Marc Riddell
--
Be direct - be fair - be assertive - but, above all, be civil.
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