On 12/27/06, Oldak Quill oldakquill@gmail.com wrote:
On 27/12/06, Parker Peters onmywayoutster@gmail.com wrote:
When I see some valid criticism, I'll not call it racism.
The stuff you're supporting, however, is just racist.
Parker
How about we, say, _feign_ civility and avoid accusing each other of racism?
To say that a comparison between Apartheid and Israel is "very, very valid criticism of the State of Israel" is not racist. It's accusing Israel of being racist. Perhaps, if this claim doesn't have any supporting evidence, you could call it nationalist. Nothing more.
-- Oldak Quill (oldakquill@gmail.com) _______________________________________
But the problem is, the evidence all points the other way. Attempts to compare Apartheid with Israel's situation have never been honest, but always have been nothing more than racist propaganda.
If you're going to make a comparison with Apartheid, you've got a better comparison looking at Saudi Arabia, where multiple cities require non-Muslims to drive on different roads than Muslims, and non-Muslims are barred from multiple areas of many cities, and are subject to different laws and different punishments for breaking the laws.
The fact that this was brought up when it was is sad, and the fact that I see editors going on trying to find some method of justifying writings that are mere propaganda being placed onto wikipedia, is horrifying to me.
Parker